Alan Esdaile… Sad news. Saw him a few times, always put on a great show.
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Andre Martin….Dateline: 19.00hrs [BST] 27 March 1964 – read on………………….
Birth of Pirate Radio in Britain – April 1964
Fifty three years ago, the radio world was going to be changed forever for the listeners in the United Kingdom. In the February of 1964, Irish musician manager and businessman Ronan O’Rahilly obtained the 702-ton former Danish passenger ferry, Fredericia, which was converted into a radio ship at the Southern Irish port of Greenore.
The Fredericia was renamed MV Caroline [after the daughter of the late President Kennedy] On 26th March the MV Caroline set sail under the command of Captain Baeker. Her destination was given as Spain. A Royal Navy destroyer inspected the MV Caroline as she passed Plymouth. On Good Friday – Friday, 27 March 1964, at 18:00 hours the MV Caroline dropped anchor off the coast of Felixstowe, Suffolk, and started test transmissions. The following day – Saturday, 28 March, broadcasting regular programming started at 12 noon on 197 meters on the medium wave band (announced as 199 meters)
The official opening was undertaken by Simon Dee. And the first programme, which had been pre-recorded, was hosted by Chris Moore. The first record that was played on Radio Caroline was “Not Fade Away” by The Rolling Stones. Radio Caroline’s first musical theme was Jimmy McGriff’s “Round Midnight”, a jazz standard co-composed by Thelonious Monk. In March 1964, Birmingham band The Fortunes recorded the song “Caroline”, which later became the station’s theme song. The station’s slogan was “Your all-day music station”.
Broadcasting hours were between 6 am and 6 pm to avoid competition from Radio Luxembourg. After its 6 pm close-down, the station returned to the air at 8 pm and continued until after midnight. This was to avoid direct competition with popular television programmes
What was on offer to the young people in Britain when Radio Caroline launched? It must be remembered that, the Radio Networks were under state control, and the amount of time allowed each day for “recorded music”! ie record was about 5 hours spread across all the networks – Light Programme, Home Service and Radio Three. Because of this restriction much of the music provided was “live” performance or recorded programmes, ie bands, groups and singers. The main competition would have come from Radio Luxemburg broadcasting from the Grand Duchy of Luzemburg, and not being subject to British Laws – the English service was using a lot of pre-recorded programmes, all being sponsored by one of the major record labels, ie DECCA, EMI, PYE etc. It had been because of this “ closed shop” policy that Ronan O’Rahilly had started “ pirate radio” he wanted to promote a Georgie Fame single – but could not break the hold of the big companies and let the independent record labels have air time.
A typical weekends broadcasting would have looked something like this – let’s look first at Saturday – 8.00-10.00 Children’s Choice : 10.00 – 12.00 Saturday Club with Brian Matthews featuring some current pop records, studio recordings and live bands : 13.00-13.30 Jack Jackson and then from 13.30 onwards to about 18.00 –Sports afternoon. The evening would have been made up of musical, comedy and concerts.
Sundays – 9.00 – 10.00 Children’s Favourites: 10.30 – 11.30 Easy Beat with Brian Matthews, records, studio recordings and live bands: 11.31 – 12.00 Religious Service: 12.noon – 13.30 Two Way Family Favourites – BBC London and BFBS[British Forces Broadcasting Service] Cologne [Koln Germany] record requests and dedications – we still had service personnel stationed throughout the world: 13.30 – 14.00 Billy Cotton Band Show, Variety show: 14.00-14.30 Comedy – Navy Lark, Hancock etc.. also on a Sunday afternoon you would have “Top of the Pops” with Fluff – Alan Freeman, another regular show was “Movie Go Round” and of course “Sing Something Simple”
About the only other legal radio source of popular music would have been if you had been lucky enough to be able to tune into American Forces Network – the sources were Holland and France, but this was very much hit and miss as it was dependent on the atmospheric conditions and direction of the transmission – there were only a few US bases in Britain, and they would not have been allowed to broadcast in UK because of the GPO.
Tony Davis says… Was looking through SMART the other day and saw some photos of Steve D and it took my mind back to the days when I worked at the Golden Hind. Started me thinking if anyone has any photos of those days circa 1979-1983. If you’ve got any photos, stories or thoughts lets see if we can get a thread up and running on SMART.
Alan Esdaile… Any photos or memories, please feel free to post.
Graham Belchamber… Remember the pub and I’ll have a think through the old grey matter!
Peter Fairless… Yes, I remember it, very well!
Mike Mitchell… I met my wife in The Golden Hind. Sticky carpet and video juke box. That’s the pub not the wife.
Leigh Wieland-Boys… Went to the Golden Hind most weekends before going nightclubbing! Worked in Havelock Road & often popped in at lunchtimes too. Loved that place – lots of good memories!
Jane Dorsett… the good old days leigh……..x
Peter Fairless… Wow, those town centre pubs!
Stephen Kolimbarides… Remember it well. Had a couple of really good years running the bar for Steve. Great crowd of regulars made it one of the best pubs in town. Lived next door to Saturdays till I moved into the Hind. Yes it was a long long time ago.
photo of Stephen Kolimbarides
Leigh Weiland-Boys… Remember you from my time with Steve D back in the mid 70s & behind the bar at the GH. A couple of lifetimes ago!
Julie Findlay-jones… Was that the pub with the guy who picked up the empty glasses but would sit and pretend to play cards n spoke to himself .
Stephen Kolimbarides… Mustapha. He collected half full glasses as well as empties and necked them on the way to the bar.
Matt Thomas… Sticky carpets!!!!!!
Eddy Slaug… I help clean the cellar and the back of the golden hind when Derrick Stapley and Dee stapley took it over around 35 years ago.
Denise Killick… Went to the Golden Hind back in the summer of 1980 with my friends Chantal Lacelle and Alexis Christmas. Chantal and I were visiting from Canada seeing my Gran in Bexhill but the only pub there was closed. So we hopped the train to Hastings. After getting turned away from a Club because they told me I was looked too young, even though I had my passport and drivers licence and I was 23. Then they told me they wouldn’t let us in because I was wearing joggers. For crying out loud! This guy at the back of the club heard what was going on and quickly came after us in his car – he was a cabbie and he told us about where we should go. We weren’t sure of his intentions but he calmed our nerves and took us to the Hind. Shelf beer and all. It was really crowded and loud. But I’ll never forget it. We had to drink our beers in a real rush in order to catch the last train back to Bexhill. What a drag because I really starting to enjoy the place.
poster & ticket supplied by Mick Mepham, ads supplied by Sarah Harvey
Heres a classic track from 1967 – Homburg
Graham Burfield… I remember that gig.
Jo Turner… I so loved those Procol Harum gigs
Peter Fairless… I think I might have remembered if I’d skipped a light fandango!
Fleur Cornes… I was there…:)
Mick Knights… Is the pier gig the one where a fisherman stole their outside broadcast mike they had put over the side of the pier to enhance A Salty Dog?
Dennis Torrance… I was there
Sheila Chamberlain… I was there such a good night ☺
Sheila Farmer… I remember this so well
Paul Morfey… Yes I was there, great night!!
Gerry Fortsch… Remember this well, Graham and me had looked forward to seeing Procol Harum but the sound was awful and we got our money back. I still like the records though.
Harry Randall… I’ll be there!
Tim Phillips… Beatles Day 18 .it won’t be long yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah ,it won’t be long yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah .
The Rockitmen… We love playing at Beatles Day
Sam Rosewell… I’m there!
Pauline Richards… Be there or be square!!!!
Trevor Lyward… I got a sgt pepper 12 inch picture record beatles never been played
Chris Barrett… It’s in my diary. It’s a real highlight of the year. Seeing so many friends. Pete Prescott is a hero. I wasn’t even grey when I played on it first. Here’s to many more. 🍻👍😀😎
Alan Esdaile… Always the biggest music event in Hastings.
Tim Moose Bruce… Im there with Eclipse.
Joe Knight… It’s a great chance to get to see some GREAT TALENTED PEOPLE PERFORM Looks like a great line up again.
Kevin Burchett… ill be there as normal
Alan Esdaile… Not long to go now. Don’t forget The Beatles Day Stand will be in Hastings Town Centre on Fri 31st March and Sat 1st April. Where you can get tickets, badges, raffle tickets, t-shirts and programmes to plan your day.
© Sue Arber. supplied via Phil Gill.
England – Hastings Pier 1978. Four pictures of prog rock band England on Hastings Pier in 1978, during Phil Gill time as bass player. Courtesy of rock photographer Sue Arber,who kindly sent them to Phil.
Martyn Baker… Can’t find ANYTHING at all about them online.
Alan Esdaile… That’s the trouble Martyn Baker with the name England. I have a previous posting which I will find. Here is some from you tube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7sTsR1uvKE
Roy Penfold.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_%28band%29
Martyn Baker… Thanks Alan and thanks Roy. I was doubting my memory that they actually existed!
Yvonne Cleland… Like the album name.
Dave Nattress… Wow – nice one and especially for Phil Gill. I went to the gig and was disappointed because (if I’m right) they played nothing off Garden Shed. Presumably some of the tracks they played – but no way can I remember any, would have gone on to “Last of the Jubblies”. Maybe Phil can recall or even has a set-list? Martyn, there are actually quite a lot of hits on England (this band), on the web. Try Garden Shed Music.
Phil Gill… The majority of England’s set during my tenure was songs from The Last of the Jubblies and new songs which I don’t believe were ever recorded. We rehearsed Midnight Madness from Garden Shed, but I don’t recall playing it live. I actually learned all of Garden Shed for my audition the previous year and would have loved to play it live but, to be fair, the other three had spent the previous 18 months writing and recording the album and were desperate to move on and work on new material. What’s your take on where they were headed during your post-Garden Shed tenure Geoff Peckham? Did you ever play it with them?
Geoff Peckham… I was a bit mystified as to their musical direction when I joined. I thought “Garden Shed” was fabulous but I didn’t play any of that with them. In fact we played nothing for a while, until we started rehearsing then recording the stuff that eventually surfaced on “The Last of The Jubblies”. This was very different from “Garden Shed”, more ‘organic’ I thought. It appeared to be developing but nothing seemed to move whilst I was around.
Phil Gill… Wow, exactly 39 years ago today!
Iain Cobby… Garden Shed ; must be one of the best prog albums of all time. Didn’t we swap Marshall cabs at that time Phil? I do remember the gig on the Pier and like Dave (we must have gone together as we were part of Damaris at that time) fell disappointed that there was nothing from that album. I do remember the mellotron looked as if it was stripped down, all the tapes exposed and that the PA was pants and did the guys no favors. but hey………… you lucky bassists to have been part of that history.
poster supplied by Paul Dengate, photo Alexis Korner & Snape, Musikhalle Hamburg, November 1972 Heinrich Klaffs – http://www.flickr.com/photos/heiner1947/4482746700/in/photostream/
Paul Dengate… I came across this rather nice large poster while having a sort out of boxes in the attic. March 25th 1977 at The Carlisle. Can’t particularly remember the gig, but I know I was there as I got paid!
Yvonne Cleland… Oh this was such a good gig! It was when Shipley had the Carlisle, wasn’t it? Alexis Korner was lovely x
Chris Baker… He also came down to play with Pete Sansom, his pianist from way back. I was playing bass with him at the time.
Tony Court-holmes… i was there
Paul Sleet… me too
featuring Phil Gill. supplied by Phil Gill via Robert Webb
ad supplied by Sarah Harvey poster Sue Arber via Phil Gill.
Phil Thornton ….England were great ! – lots of Mellotron and Moog, niceness !
Sarah Harvey….March 25th, 1978. England only produced one album in the 70s (Garden Shed – 1977) so I wonder what they filled out the set with. I have the Garden Shed album and played some tracks in my 70s show the other evening.
Andy Qunta…..Garden Shed is a fabulous album! They did have other songs too. I believe our SMART friends Jaffa Peckham & Phil Gill might know more about that?
Phil Gill….We didn’t do anything from Garden Shed that night or any other. It was all new stuff. The three original members had lived with the album for two years by then and wanted to move on. I’d have loved to have played songs off Garden Shed, but hey, I was the new boy.
Dave Nattress….Hi All you England fans!! I had bought Garden Shed from Boots in Bexhill. I’d noticed the album in the rack for what seemed like months and it just wasn’t selling – looked like the only copy , anyway eventually intrigue took over and I bought it and it just blew me away especially when I learned the nucleus of the band was from Crowborough. So, when they played the pier and was gobsmacked to see Phil Gill on bass. I of course was disappointed because like Phil says, they didn’t play one track off the Garden Shed album. Many years later I bought “Last of the Jubblies” on CD and more recently – well still years back, got Garden Shed on CD.
Somehow then Geoff Peckham and I met up again – went to school with Jaffa in Bexhill from 7 years old till 16 when we left, and as we talked he said he’d played/recorded Jubblies but hadn’t got it or heard it for years and years. I guess this was obviously after Phil Gill left – maybe Phil played on some tracks though, so I said all cool, well I had bought it as a punter so I was delighted to burn a copy and photocopy the sleeve etc. and I sent him the original for old school times sake. Jaffa will remember that he and I were founder members of the Goon Squad at school. To me, Jubblies doesn’t come close to Garden Shed though. Garden Shed – like just out of (seemingly) nowhere – astonishing!!!
Phil Gill….Jaffa played on all of Jubblies, it was recorded before he left and I replaced him. I played all of Jubblies live, with the exception of Jaffa’s song “Sausage Pie”, which for some reason they dropped
Steve Kinch….Phil, I remember that we played with England in Worthing, but have got absolutely no memory of the actual gig. Wasn’t Roger Carey offered the job at one time?
Phil Gill….I remember the gig well. England were not a particularly dynamic live act in my opinion, and I kind of missed the excitement of the Stallion shows I’d done for the previous two years, with John Wilde running around shaking everyone on stage by the throat, knocking us around and generally whipping up a frenzy. Yes, Roger was offered the job and I believe actually played and/or recorded with them at some point after I left. I’m a bit hazy on the story he told me, but he’d be able to confirm the detail.
Terry Pack….The Enid played twice with England while I was in the former and Phil with the latter. Lewisham(?) was one, but the other…? Do you remember, Phil? I didn’t know that Jaffa had played with them, too. I liked the drummer, who sounded a lot like Bill Bruford, I thought. The keyboard player had butchered any number of keyboards in an attempt to achieve a kind of midi. I thought they were very good.
Phil Gill…..Terry, I think the other gig was in Chelmsford
Alan Esdaile… Any idea who the support band on the pier were Phil?
Phil Gill… No idea Alan. Poster above, courtesy of Sue Arber, but it doesn’t say either.
Stuart Moir… Why has the drummer got satellite dishes above his kit, makes me smile all the cymbals and only two hands and two feet to hit them with.