The Phoenix City Setback – Hastings Pier 24th August 1968.

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supplied by Sarah Harvey

Sarah Harvey… The Phoenix City Setback – August 24th, 1968. I know nothing about this group. Anyone remember them?

Mick O’Dowd… Not even a vague memory.

Andre Martin… There was a band of similar name from Manchester who were a hard working soul band in and around the NW, This could well have been an opportunity to play for a London Promoter – John Schofield. I have check my diary and that is who was booked in but I have to say that I don’t have any memories of the night.

Alan Esdaile… Not a clue. I thought Marshall Scott would have remembered buy no joy.

60’s Mods in Hastings – New photos?

This has just been uploaded on You Tube, a few Hastings shots and probably seen most of them before but a couple I don’t recognise?

Colin Fox… I remember it well. The police pushed us onto the beach and we all sat down facing the cliffs above Hastings. All of a sudden, like a cowboy film, a load of rockers appeared in a line on top of the cliff. A big chear went up, and the rockers made their way down to the beach. A few punchups took place, but nothing serious.

Pete Fisher… I remember (aged 9) watching the Mods being marched out of town, wheeling their scooters, from my bedroom window in Fairlight Road…here’s a Pathé clip which most people have probably seen, but some nice shots of Hastings in 1964… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie9mqTafAxo

Colin Fox… It wasn’t as bad as the media made out. As usual a few troublemakers ruined it for the rest. I had several friends who were rockers. There was a bit af banter between us, but no problems.

Mick O’Dowd…  I was ther as well. As Colin says it was hyped up by the press wanting a sensational story. Then a Mod now a Skinhead!

Andre Martin… Oh well it is the 53rd anniversary of the “troubles” so the stories – true and make up will be around for the weekend.

Orpington to Hastings Walk photo 1968

   

Anyone remember taking part in this? I remember pirate radio keeping us going on the journey. Looks like the following year they did it from Hastings to Orpington.

Colin Bell… Yes, I did it with 4 friends, I remember stopping for a rest at the pub carpark at Johns Cross to check the blisters! Did 3 ‘training walks’ to work up to it. Rye and back was one and it pissed down all through when I got home all the blue dye from my new denim jeans had turned my legs blue! What was I thinking..happy days..lol

John Austin… My brother Michael Austin, the first Hastings walker to make it home !

Chris Meachen… My mum used to be involved in the support for these walks, possibly dishing out refreshments. I remember people covering their socks in soap, which was supposed to help prevent blisters..

Glynn Brown… I did it two years running and I’m in that photo somewhere. Each year we did training runs and I was one of those caught in the rain as Colin said above.

Chris Giles… I did it when I was 13 I think so would have been the year before 1967…but I did it from Orpington to Hastings finished at the oval

 

Childhood Meals, Eat It or Go Without! Was this true in your house?

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Dennis Torrance… Very much so for me Sunday was a Day all sitting at table and everything had to be eaten before we could get down had thing about lamb after that after having it every s Sunday lol

Wendy Weaver… NZ Lamb was the cheapest meat – and then the Common Market came along and the UK wasn’t allowed that anymore. Difficult to feed the family as other joints of meat were too expensive. Kids didn’t understand the dire straights parents were in and that there just wasn’t anything else, so if we are of an age we all remember this☹️

Jim Breeds… New Zealand lamb wasn’t affected by the common market and is still in the shops today, mores the pity. Support British farmers

Dennis Torrance… Sorry not a lamb lover beef was dearest then but never had chicken or turkey yes came from poor parents but still did not want lamb rather eat spam liked that great fried

Angela Frances Gardner… I remember my brother Mike Gardner sitting all afternoon at home and school in front of a plate of cold congealed food and me rescuing him by throwing the food away! He would never have eaten it! I remember a time at my school having to swallow disgusting gristly meat with water as the nuns made you eat everything on your plate!

Liz Dees Dianto… Yes I remember that very clearly.The whole school went down with food poisoning once as well, when we were all forced to eat rice pudding !

Dennis Torrance… School dinners I remember mostly ok chocolate crunch but liver and onions a no for me but had to eat it totally wrong

Alan Esdaile… Who remembers bread and dripping sandwiches? Used to enjoy them but sounds disgusting now.

Dennis Torrance… Bread and dripping sandwiches had them at the time my mum consider it a treat for me but really like banana sandwiches still do.

Paul Redfearn… Yup.

Andrew Clifton… Bread and dripping. All the time Alan.

Wendy Belton… You have made me want bread and dripping sandwiches now 😉 and my late mother used to make beef suet puddings and bacon dumplings! Those were the days.

Keith Cowper… With a strip of Bovril of course

Tony Davis… Used to have jam and banana sandwiches – loved them. Do remember not eating dinner and it being served up again for breakfast the next morning. We used to have a bowl of dripping and I used to like the jelly that formed under the white fat.

Who remembers Pinball Machines?

David Miller… Tommy does….

Roy Penfold… Plays by sense of smell! I remember there used to be a row of four or five on the pier amusements at one point.

Mick Knights… There were several in the games room at The Pam Dor, Eric banned me for playing one of them as my name wasn’t in the members book. Not bitter or anything!!!

Phil Little… Are there any left in Hastings now ? There used to be loads of them on the Pier.

Mick O’Dowd… Met my first wife in the games room of The Pam-Dor coffee bar. I was playing the pinball machine I thing was called “Buckaroo”.

Jim Breeds… TILT.

Alan Esdaile… Love them, remember playing the ones in The Pam Dor, Black Cat, the club at the top of the stairs above The Fiesta (can’t remember the name), The Pier, Olympia amusements George Street, come to mind.

Steve Cooke… I am a reformed pinball addict. Oh… TILT!

Paul Huggett… None in Hastings now (apart from three a mate of mine is restoring 👍) but if you’re ever in Minehead, Somerset, there’s a room full of them in an arcade near the WSR steam railway station….

Nigel Ford… There was one in the Kings Head, Battle, late 60’s- 70’s that got changed at least once over the years. A friend of mine sat on it and broke the glass – very expensive! Another in the Abbey Hotel too, I think.

Dave Nattress… There were many pin-ball machines for budding wizards in the amusements in Bexhill – the place is still there and open but I haven’t been in for years. Must look next time I’m down that way. This place and outside on the steps was a major hang-out in the late 60’s and early 70’s. Juke box always on and Fortes coffee bar across the road and the Cont a little further along.

The Temperance Seven performing on Hastings Pier on 14th April 1962

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Photo by Anthony Morland. Supplied by Pete Millington.

Colin Fox… Saw them in a club in Sunderland when we were touring the north east in early 1970’s. Unfortunately not many people in the club, but they were brilliant and very funny.

Iain Cobby… Does that mean that the great Peter Grant who was their road manager later to be Led Zeppelin’s guru walked the boards of the Pier?

The Beatles on Hastings Pier in 1966? It didn’t happen. Fake?

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supplied by Chris Thomas

Chris Thomas… Came across this poster while working as a bouncer on the pier in the sixties

Alan Esdaile… Anyone know anything about this poster. We know that The Beatles did not play but did the rest of the bill happen and what took place on the 3rd December?

Archie Lauchlan… Mysterious! And very intriguing

Jim Breeds… Doesn’t the story go that Epstein pulled them from the pier gig because they were asked to be on a TV show?

Stuart Huggett… Doesn’t look entirely convincing to me, slightly doctored? Here you go https://www.beatlesbible.com/…/live-another-beatles…/

Jim Breeds… December 3rd fell on a Saturday in 1960 (too early?) and 1966 (too late?).

Andrew Bantock… Fakey fakey fake fake!

Peter Fairless… Yawn! We’ve had this before. It’s a fake. The poster was for a Christmas show, somewhere, I forget. Someone added the Pier – for a joke, or as a fraud, who knows, or cares? The Beatles were booked for the pier, they got famous, Epstein didn’t honour the booking but sent other acts in their place. Have a nice Beatles Day!

Jim Breeds… They didn’t show because of a rift in the space/time continuum that doomed them to forever search for a Saturday 3rd December in 1966 in a parallel universe. It inspired their song “I’m Cross Across The Universe”.

Gavin Martin… Probably this was a gig promoted by Jeffrey Archer, just before he discovered Joe Cocker.

Mick O’Dowd… What a show line-up if it had happened!

Peter Fairless… It did, Mick, just not here – and not in 1966!

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Mick O’Dowd… Didn’t we get Billy J Kramer and the Dakotas as a consolation prize?

 

Pam Dor coffee bar Hastings – early sixties photos from Lloyd Johnson collection

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supplied by Lloyd Johnson ‘Original Modernists 1959-1966’.

photo 1: photo of Lloyd, taken by Les Martin, in The Pam Dor Club on his new camera  in 65

photo 2: 1963 or 1964 Les Martin in the grey suit in the Pam-Dor Hastings, This was taken in the first Pam Dor above 8 York Buildings.

photo 3: Lloyd’s friends outside The Pam Dor in Hastings 1964ish…you can see the Hepworth’s window display..the Coffee Bar was on the 1st floor above Hepworths..

Anyone else got any photos from any of the coffee bars in Hastings from the 60’s/70’s?

Gerry Fortsch… That brings back some memories.

Patricia Landamore… Wow, we were there & never stop talking about our wonderful teenage life👏👍The Pam Dor, our meeting place,I worked behind the counter making coffee’s & beef burgers on my Monday off from Sainsbury. From there we walked to the Witch Doctor most evenings & Sunday afternoons, unless we had to stop at the Pier to see the Rolling Stones or other BIG names💋💋. The coach trip to Brighton to see the Beatles was off my teenage scale😁. So glad I was then, amazing👍

Lloyd Johnson… That is Les Martin holding the table in the top right hand photo, I think this is when they were moving from the old premises to the new premises in Queen’s rd. above Hepworth’s….the premises in the photo became The Black Cat if my memory serves me well. Patricia I went on the coach trip to Brighton to see The Beatles at The Hippodrome on The Roy Orbison Tour and on the night we saw the show Patrica, Roy Orbison conceded top of the bill to The Beatles.We all ran around the back of the Hippodrome to see The Beatles off in their coach just in time to see them pulling funny faces at us and waving. Les Martin organised that coach trip to see The Beatles. I was sat between Helena Evans and Lesley Thewenetti, they both went mental screaming their heads off I couldn’t hear a thing but it was great fun. I also saw The Stones twice on The Pier and they played St.Clements Caves for a girlfriend of Noel D’Abo’s birthday. Noel went I think but I wasn’t invited…it would have been great to have seen them in the Caves.

Alan Esdaile… It’s been talked about a number of times of The Rolling Stones playing The Caves. Can you confirmed it happened Lloyd? I will repost the original chat about it.

Lloyd Johnson… Noel D’Ado told me it was a girlfriend of his birthday party….I can ask Noel for more info if you like…..it was 1964….they played Hastings twice on The Pier and once in St.Clements Caves that year…I saw the two Pier gigs….

Pauline Richards… I remember that, think your brother was ‘front of house’ Chris Colbran