The Juveniles – early sixties

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supplied by Colin Fox

Popular group in the sixties in the Eastbourne area, with three guitars, a tea chest bass and washboard. Playing local pubs, old peoples homes etc and featuring Eddie Sargent and Laurie Brookman. Steve Hull asks, has anyone got any photos of The Juveniles when he was playing in the band?

Rob Sargent… I remember the practice sessions before they played out, our job was to try to make the laugh by distracting them as they played (it always worked) Bruce Tarrant on washboard – I think it was Colin Tarrant on guitar and Neil Tarrant on tea-chest bass. The Sargents still get together at New Year and special times and sing a lot of the real old songs from the days of skiffle. The last time I played with Laurie on bass was 9 years ago when I invited him (as a honoury Sargent) to play with the rest of the Sargent family at my 60th birthday bash at the Queens Hotel in Easbourne

Neil Tarrant… I am Neil Tarrant and am on tea chest bass with my brother Bruce on wash board we practiced in our house 4 Royal Sussex Cres. every Tuesday. Tony Price is the other guitarist with Laurie Brookman and Eddie. I now live near Windsor but Bruce is still in Eastbourne. Happy days. Best wishes to all and love to hear from anyone.

Eddie Sargent… Me in the middle

Lynda Whatley… No mistaking that smile Eddie!

Tony Prince… Hi I am Tony Price to the left of Eddie, what fantastic fun we had. So many gigs the continental,winter garden Eastboune, Hastings and Brighton piers, and most of the clubs in Eastbourne, also Tv talent shows carol Levi’s and home grown, I still live in Eastbourne and still get together with Eddie to play all the old tunes. Glad I found this site.

Dustmen – Refuse collectors – how it used to be

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Peter Howard… To be fair, back then they were paid quite well, had job security and pensions to look forward to and more importantly didn’t have multiple levels of management telling them what they had to do, treating them like shit and giving them strict timetables

Alan Esdaile… Different world. Yes, agree they are restricted on what they can and can’t do and pick up nowadays and under time pressure. I like the bit about smiling and whistling which I remember well. They seemed to whistle more at Christmas time!

Peter Howard…  I remember just about everyone on the street would give them a present at xmas

Alan Parker…  in the old days Peter, everyone knew the dustman, the coalman, the local bobby, the postman and even the insurance man

Dawn Baker… And….they can never remember where they got the bin from in the first place

Andy Pilkington…  Did it for a few months heavy work,customers used to leave drinks out in the Summer for the bin men,cases of Coke Orange juice [all in date lol],but bin men always had cartons of orange juice,prob reason why many never got ill

John Warner… I didn’t know that you knew my dustman!

Roger Simmonds… Very true!

Tony Davis…  I understand all the difficulties they face but at least they could put the bin back in the right place rather than just throw it back anywhere

Mike Guy… & where exactly is the right place?

Leigh Wieland-Boys…  It’s like playing chess when our bins are ‘returned’ where I live! Takes three moves to get your bin back

Pete Fisher… Summer 1976 (the hot one), Leytonstone E11, worked as a student temp on the bins for 2 months. Hardest and dirtiest job I ever did…old school metal bins, had to swing one up onto your shoulder and carry the other with the other hand, and run after the truck (which never stopped)…job and finish, so mostly done by about 1pm (starting at 6:30am). Often had to have two baths to get clean. Money was quite good, (especially as I was tax exempt as a student), and we collected scrap and even took second hand furniture to the local dealer, so quite a good inofficial weekly cash bonus. We always put the bins back where they belonged BTW.

Gerry Fortsch… I don’t know about you but mostly the lads that take our rubbish away do a bloody good job, for instance I forgot to put the bin out the other week and they came in to the garden to collect it and returned it to it’s place. I can understand how they must get pissed off with some people throwing their rubbish all over the place and expecting some one to clear it up.

Mike Guy… The blokes who collect ours [in Eastbourne] are lovely chaps, helpful, friendly, get on with the job. It’s true they don’t have time to stop for a chat but they aren’t being paid for that, & they are told what to do by whoever pays them. In my experience a worker’s outlook is a reflection of how they feel that they are treated by their management.

Simon Wicker… This meme is a load of rubbish (pardon the pun)

Terry Hardwick… I let them use the toilet in the farm yard. . Problem solved.

Mick O’Dowd… In those days they used to get a tip at Christmas. Maybe that’s why they whistled!

Dave Nattress… Yes, a “back in the day tale”, when I was a young lad, dad always away somewhere in the UK at work and my Mum couldn’t lift the steel bin and nor could I, (which was in the rear yard at the back of the terraced house we lived in for a while), the bin men would come through the house, lift the bin, tip it, and bring it back. No prob. and my Mum would give them a tip at Christmas. as Leigh Weiland-Boys says,(Hi Leigh, hope you are well), you’re lucky now if they return one of your bins back to the correct post-code. progress!!

Dennis Torrance… The old days metal bin how many times did all the rubbish fall out the bottom of it . I just think all these bins now look so ugly outside your house .

Leigh Wieland-Boys… so true Dave! I am well thank you

Barron Knights – Hastings Pier 13th June 1964 by Andre Martin

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The month of June 1964 continues to be fairly warm if not a little wet, and here we are again on Hastings Pier eager to make our trip to the Happy Ballroom, for tonight on the bill be have the ever popular Barron Knights and support comes from a Eastbourne group who we have seen many times before The Sabres.
Hailing from Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire when they started in 1959, they were a straight pop group, and spent a couple of years touring and playing in UK dance halls, before the obligatory trip and time in Hamburg, West Germany. In 1963, at the invitation of Brian Epstein, they were one of the support acts on The Beatles’ Christmas shows at the Finsbury Park Astoria in London, and later became one of the few acts to tour with both the Beatles and the Rolling Stones. They first came to fame in 1964 with the number “Call Up the Groups” (Parts 1 and 2). It overcame copyright restrictions and parodied a number of the leading pop groups of the time including the Searchers, Freddie and the Dreamers, the Dave Clark Five, the Bachelors, the Rolling Stones, and the Beatles. The song imagined the various artists singing about being conscripted, or “called up” into the British Army, although actual conscription had ended in 1960. The single released in the summer of 1963 entered the charts in July that year climbed to number 3 and remained in the charts for 13 weeks. As an example, the song “Bits and Pieces” by The Dave Clark Five was parodied as “Boots and Blisters”. It is quite on the cards that this number could have been introduced to the audience in The Happy Ballroom on this appearance, and as such we could have been some of the first to see the new format of Comedy from the Boys.
Back in the last 1970s, I worked many times with the group when they appeared in Cabaret in various clubs and service bases in this country, and their act by then included a lot of sketches and one liners that had been part of their Television Shows in the UK.
As with so many groups at this time, there were alway changes, and sometimes tracking down their histories is difficult, because, people at the time never kept details, photographs, datesheets etc. The Sabres, who for several years had entertained us in the south-east were about to reinvent themselves and become The Shelley and it was from mid 1964 that these changes would take place, and we would see this happen ……. But more about later in the year.

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Hastings Pier future decided? Protest tonight Wednesday 13th June 2018

photo shared from Hasting Pier – End Of The Pier Show

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Message today from The Hastings Pier group…

Dear friends,

It has come to our attention that Hastings Pier is likely to be sold to Sheikh Gulzar from Eastbourne Pier either tomorrow or Friday.

As employees of Hastings Pier, we have remained neutral over the past eight months, as we’ve trusted that the Heritage Lottery Fund and Administrators will do the right thing for the Pier’s future. But faced with the reality that an asset which was saved with £15.2 million of public money will be sold to a private entrepreneur with no public consultation, we have no choice but to speak up.

So we will be holding a protest gig on the Pier from 6.00PM TONIGHT – we invite everyone who cares about this issue to come and make your voice heard – GIVE THE FRIENDS OF HASTINGS PIER MORE TIME!

The Friends of Hastings Pier are currently in conversations with world class operators, with the proposition of making a collaborative bid. We know the Pier hasn’t been working. We know that things need to change and improve – we need a building, we need a budget, but we have a plan and if we’re given time and investment we believe we can turn Hastings Pier into the icon the town deserves. They need somewhere between a few days and a couple of weeks – surely this is worth waiting for.

CONFIRMED SO FAR… Very pleased to announce that we have so far confirmed the following artists and speakers for tonight’s event at 6.00pm:

KING SIZE SLIM
Los Twangueros
Rufus Stone
Colden Drystone
Rushbrooke Music
Jess Steele
Buddha Triangle