More St Clements Caves Hastings gigs – 1978 – who went to The Caves gigs ask Mark Randall?

Mark Randall… Back in the early 70s when the Randall family used to hire two sherpas and trek to Pelham Crescent for our summer holiday: we visited St Clement’s cave for a tour. The guide said that it still hosted bands and had a night club there on occasions. Anyone here gigged there/went to gig?

Phil Gill… Seen a few bands down in the caves – The Breathers, and Richard Strange are two that spring to mind. I might even have played there, can’t recall who with but I do have a memory of lugging gear for miles down a path and then inside the caves.

Ann Gill… Did it involve Melanie Stace the sister of singing teacher Emma?

Peter Fairless… Yeah, went to a few gigs there.

Tony Davis… DJ’d there with Merlins Music Box a couple of times. Think it was for Debenhams Social Club. I do have the same memory as Phil about it being a long way to lug gear. Think they were good nights though. Interesting to see if someone could organise something down there now.

Peter Fairless… It’s full of Disney stuff, though, isn’t it?

Harry Randall… Gigged a few times in the caves like Phil said lugging gear several miles and once inside lugging it through narrow passageways Sandstone everywhere took about a week to clean the gear after good times though!

Tim Moose Bruce… Saw Die Laughing down there. Great night.

Chris Baker… Certainly have! Remember “Bear” our drummer complaining that the echo was like playing with another drummer about half a mile away!

Pete Fisher… I have very hazy memories of what would have been my very first gig with an electric band – a one-off engagement for me and my schoolmate John Davis (on bass), organised by a drummer who sounded like he’d trained at Butlins pensioner dances, and provided the only transport, a Reliant three-wheeler…cold, damp and miserably paid…

Dave Nattress… Samisen played there a couple of times.  Good gigs, summer, lots of foreign students filling the place up but yeah what an ordeal lugging all the gear down from the road on the top of the West Hill, down the path. I’m thinking none of the cabs had got wheels – no chance, and then down the steps, another narrow path, in, and what seemed like miles down the long descending sandy path to the main cavern where we played.  And then, bonus, do it in reverse.  So long ago I’m guessing the sound wasn’t great but the bodies would have helped soak up the reverb.

Tich Turner…  I performed there in 1967/68 [?], with Deep Purple. Just about the worst get-in ever. But this gig really sticks in my mind for another reason. The place was absolutely rammed. We played the 1st set & by the end of that, the condensation was pouring down the walls. We went back on & got through to the very last number, when there was this enormous ‘THWANG’, I looked round to see what the hell it was & there was Lennie Benton, his face an absolute picture. He had the body of his bass in one hand & the neck in another. Only thing was, they weren’t joined together! He had an old semi-acoustic bass, a Framus or something & the condensation had completely wasted the glue holding it together. My dear old Dad, put it back together & Len swore it played even better afterwards.

Lloyd Johnson… Our bunch from The Pamdor used to see The Jazz Caverners/ Dolphin Jazz band/ The Confederates and The Talismen in the early 60s….unfortunately I didn’t get to see The Stones there…but saw them on The Pier…

Tim Moose Bruce… I remember seeing Die Laughing there, was around 1978 or 79. Terry, you must remember this gig.

Terry Corder… Tim, I remember it well. My legs still ache from the carry!

Mick O’Dowd… Have to put my hand up to the Headlights gig. I think this might have been my first promotion there but can’t be certain. Headlights were an extremely able rock band and I had high hopes for them. They were the first band that I put on the Pier. They disappeared without trace unless they changed their name. Anybody know anything about them? They were from London.

Pete Prescott & Rick Pentecost – The James Burton 1992

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photos & card supplied by Pete Prescott

Natasha Kaschevsky… Wow, on the wall behind I recognise a Poster for the Summer Exposure Exhibition, must have been about ’91 or ’92, I exhibited some photos along with Bob Mazzer there!

Pete Prescott… It is around that time. We were at Porters. 25 years ! Where did that go ?

Natasha Kaschevsky… I can’t believe how time has gone either…it only seems like yesterday to me!

Pete Prescott… The one at the top is Porters.

 

Rolling Stones Charlie Watts dies at 80

photo 1: 1965 © Kevin Delaney photo 2 : 2008 © Siebbi

for more information… https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58316842

Paul Cullen… R.I.P.Charlie,a great loss

Malcolm Sharp… Great drummer, r i p

Tim Harris…Just heard. He was the glue that kept the band together during their turmoil years Remember the It’s only Rock n Roll video when it was filling up with bubbles He needed a piss but wasn’t allowed out ! Filmed with him not being amused

Jan Warren… Very sad, R.I.P Charlie

Robert Searle… RIP Charlie

Tracy Birrell… Thank you for all the years of music. He will be missed.

Alan Esdaile… Very sad news.

Marcus de Mowbray… Everyone who met or worked with him all say the same things: perfect drummer for the Stones, perfect gent.

Pete Prescott… A legend gone ! But what a life ! Still sad.

Philip John… Pete, I would second that, a first class drummer and an old school gentleman and as you say’What a life’ !

Dennis Torrance.. More sad news my condolences to Charlie Watts family The Rolling Stones and his friends

Tony Qunta… Very sorry to hear of Charlie’s passing. Great drummer and by all accounts a lovely man.

Alan Vale… RIP Charlie saw 2 shows both at Twickenham

Kevin White… Another legend passes, RIP Charlie Watts.

Nick Prince… One of the oddest musical family links ever…… Charlie Watts was Lennie Peters (Migil 5/Peters & Lee) nephew. RIP.

Marty Thongman… One piece of the most iconic Rock and Roll band,gone.A sad day for music.

Robert Fisher… Very sad loss of a great drummer and performer.R.I.P. Charlie

Colin Norton… RIP Charlie

 

 

Speedway 1970’s supplied by Sid Saunders

all photos © Sid Saunders

Sid Saunders…While looking for some family photos this morning I came across these old photos that I took in the early 1970s. They are from the speedway track near Hailsham and of a grasstrack meeting in Kent. The photos were in a poor condition and those that were in colour had to be changed to black and white as they were so faded. The photos are not very good as they were taken on a point and shoot camera and haven’t held up very well but they may be of interest to some people before I bin them all.

Tony May… PLEASE don’t bin these! They were taken I think at Arlington Stadium and are quite possibly of the Eastbourne Eagles Speedway team. Certainly Gordon Kennett was an Eastbourne rider as he was in the side when I used to go…

Steve Cooke… Great photos and brings back good memories of Sunday afternoons at Arlington.

Wendy Weaver… Loved my Sunday afternoons at Arlington. Speedway hasn’t been the same since it changed times.

Elaine Stock… Strangely when I lived in the North I visited Eastbourne Speedway a couple of times, once was in 1976 just after Peter Collins became world Champion! I’ve lived in Hastings for over 33 years and haven’t visited in that time!

Jean Parks… Thank you it brought back great memories

Karen Towner… Followed Eastbourne Eagles for many years – great fun

 

 

The waitress who appeared on the cover of Supertramp Breakfast In America

photo source: https://www.facebook.com/ClassicAlbumArt

Chris Jolly… FAB cover and FAB album!

Heather Sidery… Awesome!!!!!!

Mike Guy… That’s strange, 2 days late this pops up in my news & I’m just on my keyboard playing If Everyone Was Listening, from the wonderful Crime of the Century. First saw Supertramp on a very wet Saturday in August 1975 at Reading Festival [Yes headlined later that evening], also saw them a few times in Belgium, & a couple of weeks ago there was a Supertramp tribute band at the Eastbourne Bandstand – fab show.

Bookham Ally… That reminds me of the Woodstock couple. Still together after all these years. The couple on the album cover were photographed by Burk Uzzle for the Magnum agency. He took at least two pictures of the couple, one of which shows the woman’s face and the other which appears on the cover; however, he never got the couple’s names. In 1989, Life Magazine identified them as a then 20-year-old couple named Bobbi Kelly and Nick Ercoline, who married two years later and raised a family in Pine Bush, New York, just 40 miles (64 km) from the festival site. That claim has since been disputed by a woman named Jessie Kerr from Vancouver Island, and her friend John.

David Bartlett… Classic cover for a classic album.I learnt to play Bass via Crime of the Century. Love you Supertramp XX PS you don’t look a day over 50. Hubba Hubba

 

Supertramp – Breakfast In America review by Neil Partrick

Album cover of ‘Breakfast in America’ (released on A&M Records; artwork by Gothic Press, London)

I wrote a review of the LP ‘Breakfast in America’ 40 years on.

Supertramp’s ‘Breakfast in America’ reconsidered Perhaps it’s a matter of age, temperament, and the amount of your adolescence that you spent hiding from your parents. Confident ‘rock’ albums of the 1970s, whether by pre-punk behemoths Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin or punk posers like The Clash, are these days widely accepted in polite, white, male, middle-class circles. However Supertramp’s ‘Breakfast in America’ (released March 1979) had what for some was a more appropriate soundtrack to ‘suburban’ bedroom angst than the shed-load of pop platitudes that still pervaded about rebellion, ‘frontlines’ and class conflict (including from Pink Floyd). Such bourgeois issues usually didn’t penetrate the minds of those living in net-curtained semis, where entertainment was of the family variety and politics was what two parties usually only did every four or five years.

To be fair, Supertramp had, since ‘Crime of the Century’ in 1974, been chronicling, among other things, late teenage fears and, sometimes, coping mechanisms. On ‘Breakfast in America’ however we get the band’s principal singers and songwriters, Roger Hodgson and Rick Davies, in two set-piece lyrical and vocal contests over meaning and materialism in the west. On ‘Goodbye Stranger’, Rick Davies semi-ironically trumpets every young man’s apparent desire for personal freedom of a decidedly non-political kind, while Roger Hodgson’s backing vocal offers some salutary ripostes on the essential emptiness of such a lifestyle. On ‘Child of Vision’ it isn’t so much America that is being taken down by Hodgson with a Christian disdain for hedonism and other sins of Mammon, but the west in general.

This connected to a me as a schoolboy in Sussex, England who was beginning to question the values he had been brought up on, but who didn’t relate to those for whom calls to ‘destroy’ or ‘revolt’ had provided an effortless, and essentially meaningless, release. Unlike the Sex Pistols’ single, ‘God Save the Queen’, which was banned two years earlier, ‘Logical Song’ was a Top Ten UK hit that actually addressed the stigma that anyone who sought to articulate their social disconnection could be made to feel, rather than moronically equating an economically-struggling social democracy with a ‘fascist regime’. Hodgson expressed what some school kids were feeling, using adjectives shocking to a BBC Radio 1 audience and that admittedly ‘O’ Level English students would be more comfortable with. However he wasn’t being pretentious. When Pink Floyd celebrated illiteracy, and got a surprise Christmas Number One on the backs of working class kids from a north London primary school, they most definitely were.

Above all perhaps, ‘Breakfast in America’ is strong on ‘hooks’, big on ‘catchy’, and shows a band at the peak of its powers. It was to be a pretty abrupt downward trajectory after this album, but then Supertramp’s ability to melodically sing about insanity, adolescence, and loneliness was more at home in the 1970s. At the time that ‘Breakfast in America’ came out, the American rock critic Robert Christgau begrudgingly conceded its musicality but then held it against Supertramp when he claimed that tuneful vocals and beat weren’t the same as feeling and rhythm. Perhaps these things are in the ear of the beholder. However there is emotion aplenty on this album – in voice and subject matter – and ‘Child of Vision’ positively swings. ‘Take the Long Way Home’ chronicles personal alienation; ‘Lord Is It Mine’ has Hodgson laying himself emotionally bare. Alone and in need, he thanks God for giving him hope and teaching him humility, but wrestles aloud with his inability to sustain his faith. Using the ugly language of today: this ‘impacted’ me at the time. The whole of ‘Breakfast in America’ still does, forty years later.

Pier bouncers – Peter Reeves, Mick Baldwin, and Tom O’Rourke 1960’s

photo shared from: https://www.hastingspierarchive.org.uk

Pier Community Archives… When the Pier became a venue for rock concerts in the 1960s, bouncers were employed to keep order. The bouncers here are Peter Reeves, Mick Baldwin, and Tom O’Rourke. From the early 1960s the Pier ballroom enjoyed a resurgence as a musical venue for young people, where famous bands such as the Rolling Stones, The Who, Tom Jones and Jimi Hendrix performed. The ballroom may have lacked atmosphere but it did have a capacity of 1,500, and it is widely alleged that 2,000 or more people attended some of the events. The fact that the ballroom was at the far end of the pier meant that noisy, boisterous teenagers would not bother anyone.

Glenn Piper… I was always told the ballroom capacity was 1600 standing, not 1500?

Alan Esdaile… Yes I think your right Glenn but I think when Andre looked into the early pier paperwork from the fire brigade the figure 1600 was the limit for more of the pier and not just the ballroom???

Sandra Bryant… I was told at one of his talks that the capacity for the whole pier was used to cram them in the ballroom . No health and safety in those days . I worked in Scalliwags in the 70’s/80’s and we were always over capacity ( I can back this up) and we’re never checked

Graham Sherrington… Bloody Hell Mick Baldwin great mates with me Dad!!! Joe.

Paul Phillips… Proper doormen not just badge holders

Jane Hartley… Lovely Uncle Tom.

Beez Neez – Pebbles Nightclub Winchelsea Beach 1977 & Ashford Stour Centre 1978

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photos supplied by Mick O’Dowd

Ashford Stour Centre 1978 supplied by Martin Prior

Mick O’Dowd… Unseen pics of Beez Neez at Pebbles Nightclub Winchelsea Bech. This gig really highlighted the problems of managing a band with a young personnel, especially if one of the members of the band had a policeman for a dad. Having heard all bad things about Pebbles he refused to allow his daughter to perform. Luckily we had a reliable sub in the form of Julie Shaw who was a very good performer but didn’t want a regular commitment to the band. She stood in and gave a good performance. This gig also saw Keith Jenner make his debut appearance. As you can see Mark Harris is sitting at the back as usual.

Mark Harris… I was only 12!

Mick O’Dowd…There was a video taken at The Stour Centre . I lent it to Tereasa and never saw it again. I believe Mark Harris knows her whereabouts now. Could you ask her to return it please.