supplied by Merv Kennard
Mick O’Dowd… What a collection Merv.
Merv Kennard… Hi Mick the Caroline story and a few others are on ebay.
I have to say straight off, the fact you are reading this review, from this particular reviewer, is in itself something of a minor miracle. Much as I’ve had a lifetime love of music & chose it as my career, there are a few genres & time periods that leave me stone cold, no matter how hard i try. One in particular is the mid to late 70’s disco boom spearheaded by ‘Saturday Night Fever’ at the sound of Barry Gibb breaking into that falsetto on ‘Night Fever’ ‘ Jive Talkin’ etc i run for the hills with my fingers in my ears. But of course there is always going to be the odd exception to my general disregard of that whole time/genre. That exception i present to you here today in the shape of Rose Royce. I don’t recall now when i first became of them, but no doubt it was 1976 and ‘Car Wash’ but it was undoubtedly a year or more later when i heard ‘Wishing On A Star’ that i finally did take some notice. Who was that lead female singer with such an enchanting vocal? Rose Royce’s story began in 1973 when an 8 piece collective from Los Angeles then known as the Total Concept Unlimited toured Europe & the UK as part of Edwin Starr’s soul show. It was Edwin that introduced the band to legendary Motown songwriter/songwriter Norman Whitfield in a move which saw the stars align. After a decade at Motown shaping the careers of Edwin & notably The Temptations, Whitfield was looking for a new challenge and left Motown taking with him The Undisputed Truth and setting up his own label Whitfield Records. His next move was to sign the Total Concept Unlimited as the studio and touring band to back them. By this time the band had changed its name & become Magic Wand. Whilst in Miami a member of The Undisputed Truth heard Gwen Dickey singing in a local band and brought her to Whitfield’s attention who flew her to Los Angeles for an audition. He realised he had found in her the ingredient missing from Magic Wand and installed her as their lead singer, in the process giving her the stage name Rose Norwalt. Whitfield had recently been charged with creating the soundtrack for a new musical comedy movie ‘Car Wash’. Whitfield took the members of Magic Wand to the film set for them to soak up the atmosphere and used the music he created for the movie to launch the band, who with a final name change, he dubbed Rose Royce to reference Rose (Gwen Dickey) and Royce to signify ‘class’ as in Rolls Royce. The band were immediately successful with the single release of the theme ‘Car Wash’ which was a Billboard No 1 and the soundtrack double album from which it was lifted was certified double platinum. ‘Car Wash’ is naturally the opening track on this excellent new 3 CD compilation from Robinsongs. It is called The Definitive Collection and for once it certainly lives up to its title. I have lost track of the albums i have been sent over the years that use the word ‘definitive’ but 9 out of 10 times aren’t. This is usually because the band concerned have recorded for several different labels & they haven’t all been willing parties to participate together with one collection, thus you don’t really get a true ‘definitive’ compilation at all and you end up having to buy several albums to get what you want. That is not the case here. Robinsongs have pulled together the bands work from all labels concerned in the Rose Royce story MCA, Warner (who backed Whitfield Records) and Epic. So,you can literally sit back and enjoy all the classics you would expect. Disc1 as you might expect kicks off with ‘Car Wash’ (the long version) and features other major hits including ‘I Wanna Get Next To You’ ‘I’m Going Down’ ‘Wishing On A Star’& the exquisite ‘Love Don’t Live Here Anymore’ which must surely rank as one of Gwen’s finest vocal performances over her career with the band. Alongside these biggies are some great funk/soul tracks like ‘Do Your Dance’ which are clearly inspired by Whitfield’s work with The Temptations but taken to a new funkier level. The closing track is also a real beauty, a mid paced ballad entitled ‘Help’ which I’ve totally fallen for. Disc2 starts with a fabulous track That’s What’s Wrong With Me’ that displays many of the musical traits of ‘psychedelic soul’ that Whitfield had pioneered at Motown. However it’s track 2 that i can’t get out of my head and have repeatedly replayed just for its wonderful intro. The way it builds with the stabbing synth, the drums, the bass line, the horns, the strings all making their appearances is intoxicating. Although i was obviously aware of it at the time of its release in 1979 i didn’t REALLY listen to it then ‘Is It Love That You’re After’ was and is a truly great track and I’m somewhat ashamed i wrote off late 70’s ‘disco’ as mentioned at the start of this review so completely, when songs as good as this existed, but hey it’s never too late to learn. IILTYA was to be the last hit featuring Gwen before she left to go solo in 1979. Track 3 ‘Bad Mother Funker’ (yes i did spell that right…) is a very cool slice of funk as is the following track ‘Pazazz’, an instrumental which contains some dazzling horns. I’m not going to pretend I’m familiar with all the tracks that make up Disc2, 13 in total, because I’m not, due as aforementioned to my previous disinterest in the genre, but I’m learning and listening avidly and genuinely enjoying what I’m hearing. Disc3 contains 10 tracks and kicks off with the full length 12 minute version of ‘RR Express’, which again being totally honest is the only track on the disc that I am familiar with and that is only because a friend i used to hang with in London loved it, The following 2 tracks ‘Jump Street’ & ‘Illusions’ both gave my speakers a good work out and are deeply funky. There were moments listening to this collection where certain parts or riffs would remind me of Earth Wind & Fire or Sly & The Family Stone, but i honestly think Rose Royce in the final analysis are often cooler & more refined than either. I’m now re-assessing my previously held opinions on late 70’s disco/funk thanks to listening to this compilation. I may not find anything else from that era that i have changed my mind about, however i thank Robinsongs for showing me the error of my ways when it comes to Rose Royce. The collection comes housed in a quality fold out pack with accompanying informative booklet. If i was still using my old 5 star rating system this new compilation would merit all 5 and that’s a statement i never thought I’d make about this genre when i woke up today. Enjoy.
for more information go to https://www.cherryred.co.uk
Til next time…..stay safe…..Colin
Alan Esdaile… Good review and video but the track I really love is ‘Love Don’t Live Here Anymore’
Mick O’Dowd… Really loved this band. I’m another fan of RR Express. Had 12″ copy (the long version and played it a lot. I also love the other tracks you mention. Thanx for the background info. very interesting. If you see a spare copy floating about can you put my name on it please.
Ernest Ballard… Get off the line there is a train coming. Reverse the charges to parents. Talking clock. Ah the memories. Such heavy phone books
Jane Saunders… the smell of pee pee in the telephone boxes and all the phone numbers from working women – ahhh the memories
Alan Esdaile… Remember the smell! Used to always push the buttons in the hope of getting a few pennies
Eric Peckham… hello operator … hello operator … hello operator
Dennis Torrance… So much different then the queuing in the rain and people banging on the booth happy days lol
John Warner… Free calls just tap out the number!
Amanda Brooks… .. well you better get off, theres a train coming
Eugene Hughes… I remember them well. Particularly as we never had a phone at home. How about Dial a Disc!!!
Jan Warren… Great to see this!! – life used to be so simple?!!
Paul Morfey… The 4 runner of the moblie phone!?!
Eugene Hughes… The original mobile phones weren’t much smaller.
Jan Warren… Hideous, bulky things!! – I never had one, I think they were more of a “status symbol” for the posh, rich yuppies?! haha
An early recording by the Stranglers’ Dave Greenfield made in late Autumn, 1973. The band was called Rusty Butler and this was made at Saturn Studios in Worthing, Sussex, England.
The line-up was: Tony Savva (Vocals), Dave Greenfield (Keyboards/Backing Vocals), Eddie Renouf (Lead Guitar/Backing Vocals), Dave Poxon (Bass Guitar), Colin Norton (Drums).
The song was written by David Poxon.
Colin Norton… Hey Alan, Thanks for posting!
Alan Esdaile… I remember Saturn Studios. Spend a few long nights their. Probably with Steve D’s bands?
Colin Norton… I think that it’s called Pebble Beach now, not sure…
Anthony Ruffell… Saturn Recording studios was in teville road Worthing by the train station run by David Ruffell my dad from about 1972 to 1978 i think he sold it on, he had a trident mixing desk.
Anthony Ruffell… I got the date. It was from 1970
A Great turn out for our 60th SMART coffee meet and among the newbies this time were Rod Stapley, Mike Raxworthy and Lea Mason. Rod was chatting about when he was singing with The Silver Songstars one of the first boy bands with 12 in the group. Coming from a musical family, his dad was a drummer in a dance band. Mike was talking about his busy schedule of events coming up on The Stade which include Midsummer Fish Fest on the 25th & 26th June, 8th July Eddie & The Hot Rods, 9th July Big Band event, 10th July six groups playing and the nearly on the beach event is booked for the 30th & 31st July. Lea was talking about his happy memories when he was a dj for Mecca at The Lyceum, The Tottenham Royal and at The Locarno Ballroom in London. Dave Jenkins had a photo album of the Jimi Hendrix museum in London and remembers seeing him at The Upper Cut Club in Forest Gate on the 26th December 1966 and this is where Hendrix wrote Purple Haze. Mo Elms had with her an autograph book which included autographs of Junior Campbell, Miki Anthony, the actors from Please Sir and also business cards from Free Radio Association 1970 and Broadside Free Radio Movement. Pete Prescott had a bundle of albums including a rare ‘Free Story’ Canadian edition, also interesting photos albums with some of when he worked for Collins & Hayes. Merv Kennard had a massive collection of pirate radio station albums and radio books. Colin Tapp had a pile of tickets and cards of The Humperdinks and The Mix-Sirs. David Muriel had with him the invite card for his 21st birthday party which was held at The Pam Dor in Hastings and the band that performed was The Preachers which featured Peter Frampton and original drummer of The Rolling Stones Tony Chapman. He also had publicity info from the book he wrote with Bruce Veness ‘Gridlock Spumes And The Case With No Name’ which is a spoof on Sherlock Holmes. Among his photo albums were photos of his dad John Muriel when he acted in Treasure Island with The Hastleons. John ran a chiropodist surgery in Wellington Square. General chat was about the sad loss of Ray Fenwick and Martin Stringer, The Pier, Eurovision, happy memories of the white rock baths and our aches and pains! This is just a small bit of what I remember, if you had anything interesting you were talking about then please feel free to add.
Lucy Pappas… I think I missed a good one! xx
Lance Collins… Sorry to miss it. Will catch you next month.
Stephen Moran… Thank you so much for hosting yesterday’s SMART coffee meet Alan. It’s something I always look forward to.
Claire Lonsdale… As usual, I really enjoyed it , chatting to like-minded people and look forward to the next one. Thanks Alan for organising it. X
David Jenkins… Had a great time, so good to see new people . Thanks Alan, you are doing a fantastic job , looking forward to the next one. Dave.
Mick O’Dowd… Wow what a turn out & it didn’t, unfortunately, bring me any bags of sherbert lemons (see ad for Meet online). Loved the collection of pirate radio albums as it contained an album that I was always after on Jumbo Records & Tapes label about Caroline. Interesting
chats with Colin Bell & Stephen Moran among others. Great to see so many newbies coming along and against many would be newbies fears, they are all still alive! A great deal of credit must go to our leader, Alan Esdaile/Johnny Mason for his sterling efforts and hard work in putting this all together for us. THANKS ALAN!
Merv Kennard… Hi Mick, if you want the Caroline story on vinyl look on ebay, I’ve just seen several copies for sale.
Stuart Moir… I must make the effort and get there to reminisce as there are many memories that are interesting to remember.
Keith Veness… Will get there one day
Merv & Cris Kennard… Really enjoyed the gathering this month, I hadn’t seen Paul Hugget since his day’s of commentating at Lydden Hill rally x. And the last time I saw Eric Harmer was 1968 when I left school.
Pete can you let us know the story BEHIND this and who was the culprit?
Wesley Magoogan… It wasn’t me !
Andy Qunta… I’m pretty sure we’re going to see Pete’s legal team going into action as soon as the culprit is found!
Pete Prescott… ha ha ! i will never say where he is buried ! it was at clives studio about 90/91 mick burt of the lost boys was playing for a punk band.one of then showed his artistic skills.i loved it ! the punk band was the Cockney Rejects.
supplied by Pete Prescott
Pete Prescott… A note given to the band from the landlord of The Kings Head in the old town early 1980. My parents were down, they had never seen me sing. Three songs in the landlord gives me that note. Ray Fenwick takes one look then unplugs his amp, we packed up and left but the landlord begs us to stay. I would have liked to have turned down. My parents said “that was a bit short (and loud) they never did see me sing. Nice note, the band was the Jims. Pete Shaw, Dermot Terry Andy Caine, Tony & Andy Qunta and me.
Andy Qunta… How rude! Shame we couldn’t compromise & carry on, especially for Pete & his folks!
Mick Mepham… My parents only saw me once, on the pier, with Die Laughing and once with Titus, I think in Battle. I was glad they did because it’s too late now.
Mike Guy… Was it The Spell Bees – a band created to correct the spelling of landlords with poor English?
Phil Gill… My parents never saw me play either, thank goodness. They would have hated the noise. My Auntie Eileen did once – she lived in Fulham and turned up at a Stallion gig at the Greyhound. My mum had apparently phoned her to say I was playing down the road from her, whilst I was in transit – or more correctly, in the Transit. I was only 18 and it was way embarrassing…
Pete Prescott… I saw tich turner at the beach gig with the Mish Mash Band. He made the band play very quietly as he told the crowd that his parents who had never seen him perform were leaving the beach a couple of songs into the set. Hundreds of us watched two very embarrassed people walk out. they could have walked below a closed door with a top hat on. I would support any of my children at whatever they do.
Pete Shaw… It wasn’t me making any noise at that Kings Head gig! Honestly, I was using polystyrene sticks…and anyway, what’s wrong with a kit louder than Concorde….I ask you…..
Stuart Moir… Tinnitus !!!
Terry Pack… As usual, Pete, I don’t remember it, but I love the fact that you kept the (post it?) note! Which was the gig when the landlady, on handing over the money, said, ‘I’ve heard worse.’? At least he gave you a valuable impressionist painting!
Mick Mepham… Haha, Bob somebody or other if memory serves. Subtlety was never his strong suit!
Peter Howard…
Graham Sherrington… Peter, she were brilliant!!!!!
Mark Rodrigues… 1982-1987 some point I reckon
Roger King… Could very well be 1986. By that time the Pavilion had been renamed Theatre, and crucially July 19 was a Saturday in that year.
Steve Hamilton… I was going to say it seems like 1980 – until I saw Flying Pickets who surely were not a thing until 1982/3? So what looks like a pretty decent line up for 1980 seems a little retro for 1986…
Margaret Trowell… Proper acts ..the real deal back then not the endless tribute acts we get now
Matt Thomas… I think this was after a major refurb and was billed as the summer of stars
Colin Bell… Although i must be honest and say there’s not many listed here I’d have gone to see, at least they were all proper ‘names’ unlike the poor second rate acts they now seem to endlessly put on