Hastings Pier Reopening – Help with more archive images.

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Roy Brigden.….Hi, I’m part of the volunteer archive team working for Hastings Pier Charity which is building a digital collection of material about the Pier and its history. This will be used in the public programmes and interpretation when the Pier reopens in summer 2015. One of the themes will obviously cover all forms of music presented on the Pier. Contributors to this site have some marvellous images and stories so I wondered whether we could put out a call for help? We would love to have digital copies of reasonably high resolution of posters, adverts, tickets, photos etc relating to gigs on the Pier. These can be emailed to me or they could be brought in to the Hub (the old swimming baths by the Pier) where the archive team meets every Wednesday morning 10am-1pm. We can scan material on the spot there. We would also like to talk to anyone with memories and connections to music on the Pier. We are in touch with Andre but obviously there are others. We would much appreciate your assistance, Regards, Roy Brigden        r.brigden186@btinternet.com

Disaster story gig section – suggested by Pete Prescott

Pete Prescott…..I think we should have a disaster story section ! everyone remembers those more anyway (we just hope we are the only ones !) my problem would be “which one do i choose ?” there are SO MANY

Alan Esdaile….Has Steve Kinch told the story about Wesley Magoogan new shoes, on the Hazel O’Connor tour bus, yet?

Wesley Magoogan….You mean when one of the road crew lobbed one of my new shoes out of the tour bus window on the motorway ?

Pete Prescott…. love that shoe story! trying to decide what disaster story i can tell.the getting drunk and stealing a dress one gives wrong impression.losing my mike lead and falling on my knees to find it (while my roadie looks at a topless girl in the front row)in front of 20,000 at st gallen isn’t dramatic enough.falling over at a lost boys gig while doing jump just hurt.ill find one.

Mick Mepham……Got as far as Croydon (I think) on the way to Wales only to find I hadn’t got my guitar. Not popular with the others….

Phil Gill…..I remember trying to prevent someone climbing onto the front of the stage at a Stallion gig once by shoving them with my feet, only to discover it was John Wilde, who’d just fallen off it a moment before. It was probably on the pier

Pete Prescott…..I was singing at a festival near oxford with a band that was a tribute to free and bad company.i was trying to work out what was wrong with the guitar intro to feel like making love.what was wrong with the guy ?!!! then i realised i was singing that song while the band was playing shooting star ! i was told everyone backstage was singng it out and praying i would get my head out of my arse and realise it ! massive cheer when i did. I still have nightmares ha ha ! baby when i think about you. . . no that’s wrong ! baby when i . . . no still wrong !!! baby . . . aaargh ! i remember walking backstage and getting the kind of looks reserved for football players who miss THE penalty ! i could have walked under a closed door with a top hat on !

Mick Mepham……Talk about memory getting bad, I had to give up singing Whisky in the Jar a while back, just could NOT remember the second verse. How many times have I sung that? 100s, 1000s……

 

Hat Trick – A Brief Story by Sarah Harvey

Sarah Harvey……Thought I would try a different way to illustrate the brief story behind Hat Trick.

Alan Esdaile…..Excellent Sarah, this must have taken you ages. I thought we only had a few bits on Hat Trick but when you put it all together its very impressive. Also the musics got a good vibe to it. Pity I did not see this earlier as I have just been chatting to Roger Carey. He’s put the next SMART meet in his diary.

Sarah Harvey……Me and Roger go back some way….he is a dear friend and I have many stories to impart regarding our musical backgrounds. We both loved Be Bop Deluxe and have some recordings of Hat Trick playing Maid In Heavean and Sister Seagull. Have some more recordings of Hat Trick, and providing Roger is ok with it, I will post more. Perhaps one day we can have a Hat Trick reunion!

John Storer….I like to think that, in some miniscule way, I influenced Roger’s bass-playing by giving him my copy of “‘Igginbottom’s Wrench” by ‘Igginbottom … an album he loved and which led to him and Dave jamming along in a style not to far removed from the Hat Trick track featured here. It was no act of charity or kindness … I’d found the album pretty much unlistenable 🙂 A couple of years back I downloaded the album thinking, perhaps, that my advancing years and exposure to many musical genres over that time may lead to a greater appreciation of the band. It didn’t! Does Sarah remember another couple of obscure albums I had that we played quite often … Andromeda’s self-titled debut and “Made In England” by Bulldog Breed?

Sarah Harvey….Yes, I remember John always coming up with some really obscure stuff and I often contemplated where on earth he got them from….but every now and again he came up with a cracker. I vaguely remember Made In England, but Andromeda were a band I really took to, so much so that I now have some tracks from the album in digital format and is in my 70s playlist on Rock@1066. This one was a particular favourite of mine…..

John Storer….Sarah, Have to share with you the tragic story of that Andromeda album. Was returning home from a party somewhat the worse for wear, clutching a few albums under my arm. Hadn’t put the disc in the cover properly and it rolled out and slid some distance down Montgomery Road. Rendered Side 2 unplayable and I binned it. Jump forward to around 2000. Browsing in a book shop on holiday and found a book on record collecting. Middle section contained a list of the 10 rarest and most valuable vinyl albums. “Andromeda” was about No.7 on the list! I bought the album (like most of my obscure stuff) in one of the many second hand shops in the Old Town and did so purely on the strength that I knew John Du Cann had gone on to form Atomic Rooster. Think I paid 18p for it. Now have the album in digital format, along with an album’s worth of previously unreleased stuff. Actually listened to it only a couple of months back. One of my business partners has a 16 year old son who is a truly exceptional guitarist (Jonny Sands – remember that name). We have the same taste in modern bands that borrow heavily from the late 60s / early 70s sound (Mystic Braves / X-Ray Harpoons / Temples / Wooden Shjips / Black Angels etc) and I’ve been “educating” him into some of the original stuff. I’d burned him a copy of the album to listen to. He really enjoyed it

Pete Fisher….very well put together – great music, which I unfortunately missed, having moved to London in 1974….but I was lucky enough to play with Roger in Mae West and Pueblo during the previous two years….I learnt a lot!

Factory – Time Machine Record Wanted

 

Hi,
Can you please put me in touch with the members of Factory? I’m looking to purchase a copy of their “Time Machine” 45. Thanks, Lance. Lance Barresi Permanent Records email…lapermanent@gmail.com

Information has been passed on to Factory and if anyone else has a copy to sell then please email Lance at above.

Mike Curtis…..You’ll be lucky Lance. The last one I saw for sale the dealer wanted £800. Like me, my copy is warped, but it ain’t for sale.

Phil Thornton….mines all scratched up and I’m keeping it !

Sarah Harvey….I have a copy in excellent condition. I kept it in a cardboard sleeve all these years…but simply can’t part with it.

The album you wished you had but lost it or never bought it.

Thanks to Mick O’Dowd for suggesting this thread.

Phil Thornton….Technodelic by YMO !

Steve Thorpe…..Hergest Ridge by Mike Oldfield – listened to it at various mates houses but never owned a copy.

Gary Kinch…..I bought Fog on the Tyne on cassette in 72 but lost it later that decade: Sittin’ in a sleazy snack-bar, Suckin’, sickly sausage rolls, Slippin’ down slowly, slippin’ down sideways
Think I’ll sign off the dole.

Jim Breeds…..Thin Lizzy – Roisin Dubh (Black Rose). Their live album. Lost or stolen (in my 1980s London flat sharing days), don’t know which. Just know it wasn’t there when I looked for it one day.

Andre Martin….The Apollo Theatre – NYC – 1962 Live Concert – all those great acts from this iconic Harlem Theatre. All I can remember it was on Atlantic Records.

Will Cornell….A 3 LP best of Sam Cooke that was only avail on TV. I had it and lost it when I left my LPs in care of a couple who lived in the town my college was in during summer break. I came back for Fall semester, didn’t notice it gone until they had moved away. They left their copy of Rubber Soul in my collection, netting me 2 . You can always buy Rubber Soul. That Cooke set was limited and gone forever. The decent CD comp I have is close but not the same………

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The Creation

Will Cornell from America posted the question….. the more I hear them on the Nuggets II box set, I can’t figure out how The Creation was not as huge an import over here as Small Faces, Yardbirds, The Who, any number of other Brit bands of that time. Wonder what went wrong? They were awesome what little I’ve heard.

Alan Esdaile……They only had one big hit here was ‘Painter Man’. Later recorded by Boney M. Never were that massive here but featured on loads of compilation albums.

Will Cornell….Apparently the youtube posts say they should’ve been bigger over there too….I’ve not heard Painter Man, maybe I need to find a whole Creation CD.  Maybe the Shel Tamy connection was an impediment–he was too busy with the Kinks and Who. People forget other stuff Andrew Loog Oldham and George Martin did too, ya know. Ah well, found me a collection of their stuff (maybe the “compleat”) that has both mixes of “How Does it Feel…” and the aforementioned “hits” and it’s on my wish list.

John Storer…..What a coincidence …. shortly after this single was released, Kim Gardner from The Birds (see post ante) joined The Creation on 1967 and his best mate, Ronnie Wood, joined in 1968 after he, too, left The Birds

Will Cornell…..Cue up the Theremin music –that IS weird. I didn’t know Wood joined them so late. Here’s another weird thing–there is a fellow licensed products sales rep over here like myself named Kimm Gardener who was/is bassist for S.Calif punk band Channel 3. (theremin: Oooooh ooh ooh ooooooh! ) They were on the great late Enigma/Restless records. Gee wonder why no one has bought up that roster and reissued some of it. They truly had some great bands. One of the cutout lines I sold bought their remaining stock in the early 90s and I had a field day going thru their Little Rock Arkansas warehouse pulling stuff they sold to me for cost–Game Theory, Mentors, Tex & Horseheads, Mojo Nixon, Dead Milkmen, 45 Grave, Plasticland many more….they were up there with 4AD in the 80s, I tell ya..

Grundy – 2001

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playing on Carnival night 2001 in the garden of the Royal Standard Pub in Hastings Old Town. RIP Nigel – very much missed. (Clockwise top left to bottom left) Bob Posner, Nigel Davies, Kirk Ronchetti, Clive Davies

Mick O’Dowd….Bob Posner only seems to speak Spanish on Facebook. Is he located in Spain now?

Yvonne Cleland…..He speaks Italian

Stevie Beale…..yes he has moved to Italy permanently now, and doing well in his old band ( dont know the name) but touring etc.

Yvonne Cleland….It’s The Rokes.

Mick O’Dowd…..f you are on FB you can’t miss The Rokes & Rokes Fan Club but most of it is in Italian!

Antonio Piras Scanu….Sei troppo forte…appena posso verrò a vederti cantare!! which translates as….You’re too strong … I will come to see you as soon as I can sing!

Eric Cawthraw…..it must have been about 6 years back that Bob Posner told me he was hoping to go back to Italy and would like to get the old band back. As many of you know, he had a big hit out there in 60s/70s.

Mysteries – Hastings Carnival 1988

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Featuring John Wilde & Chris Sambrook.

Jon McCallion….I remember c sambrook.

John Wilde…..This was the Royal East Sussex Hospital float. With Chris Sambrook, Myself and the late Chris Turner. I cant remember the name of the guy playing rhythm guitar. It was a fun day.

Mike Curtis…..Chris. You have not changed a bit

Northern Soul Living For The Weekend – 25th July 2014 BBC4 – what do you like?

Leigh Wieland-Boys ….Thanks for reminder – can’t wait for 9.30! Keep the Faith :o)

Redstar Ritchter……I`m out on the floor as we speak 🙂 ktf 🙂

Alan Esdaile…..The trouble is if I get down on the floor, you have to somehow get back up again! Likewise looking forward to watching this and feel free to post any of your favourite Northern Soul tracks here.

Leigh Wieland-Boys……Do I Love you, Indeed I do by Frank Wilson (Steve Ellis did it justice when I saw him live, he dedicated it to Paul Weller who was sitting in front of me!) and For the Love of Mike by Brenda or Patrice Holloway, so many great NS tracks out there.

Alan Esdaile….Here’s some great tracks….

John Storer…..In the early 80s, Mrs S and I became friends with a couple who were northern soul afficianados … he had been a professional northern soul DJ for many years and had a massive collection of 45s. Frequent visits to their home led to me becoming a huge fan. My two favourites, without a doubt, are the following – Patti Jo Make me believe in you and Gene Chandler There was a time.

Alan Pepper….Enjoyed the documentary , although had seen a lot of it before
Was a Motown man in my youth but do love a few of the classics,
I’m on my way by Dean Parrish, Love love love by Bobby Hebb and my favorite being Moody Woman by Jerry Butler. Can’t dance like that anymore but nice to see
the young generation keeping the faith going !

Alan Esdaile….Gene Chandler There was a time, used to play the James Brown version at Bonitas a lot. Still love the Dean Parrish track, Alan.

Angus Webster….Halcyon days, enjoyed the documentary, Northern Soul was massive in Scotland KTF

Andre Martin…..Had the opportunity to catch up with the Living for the Weekend – Northern Soul, excellent programme with some of the key players from the days of the Wheel, Torch and Blackpool etc. If you have not seen this it is still on iplayer for the next few days.