Skid Row, Graham Bond & Pete Brown – Hastings Pier 10th August & 17th August 1972 & memories of Gary Moore

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Phil Gill….Gary Moore had already left by this time and Adrian Fisher had stepped in.

Gary Kinch….Was there. Good gig…….so was Stray, Stackridge and Genesis. 50p a ticket, same price as 4 pints of bitter (12p Jenny)

Martyn Baker….Also. See Genesis Live! 60p!

Chris Meachen…..I sang ‘johnny b goode’ with skid row at that gig, & was invited to join the band!

Pete Fisher….the dawn of shredding – you’d have to go to John McLaughlin to find a guitarist who could play that fast back then .I’ve been combing my scrapbooks etc from back then recently, and I was at the Skid Row gig – featuring a very young Gary Moore, I think he was actually only 18, playing amazing guitar…I was also at the Stray gig, and still have a Stray badge – they also played the Pier 25.03.72, supported by Factory! When I get time I’ll post a list for 71/72/73, and some original tickets/photos!

Yvonne Cleland…I was in the front row for the Gary Moore Band, so can confirm that one. Don’t know why, but my memory is telling me he was the support act for someone, but my memory could easily be wrong.

Terry Pack…I got to know Gary quite well when I was recording at Morgan with The Enid in 1977. He was recording with Jon Hiseman’s band, as was Don Airey. Morgan had 4 studios in the same large building, with a central space containing a bar, where we used to meet for a drink and a game of pool. Heatwave were also recording there at the time, and I beat Rod Temperton time and again at darts. Gary was very shy, and very self-conscious about the scar on his cheek, which is why he always had his hair across his face. I met him a few more times at Blues Festivals during the 80s and 90s when I was playing with Johnny Mars.  He was a fine player.

Phil Gill….The Gary Moore Band played the pier with Vinegar Joe in 1973. Vinegar Joe had Robert Palmer and Elkie Brooks, but Gary was the man for me. Steve D and I were “Entertainments Secretaries” on the college Students Union and had booked them, so we were on the pier when they sound checked. Gary Moore had just left Skid Row and was touring his Grinding Stone album, great band, two guitarist and keyboards. He sound checked by playing You Don’t Love Me from the Allman Brothers live album, playing Duane’s solos almost note for note. It couldn’t get any better – one of my favourite guitarists playing a song from my favourite album.
I had to sort out time slots and stuff with him after the sound check, and I mentioned that he’d obviously studied the Allmans’ live album. He was pleased and surprised I’d noticed the reference, and I spent a great half hour or so with him in the dressing room discussing the Allmans, Duane and guitars – common ground, we were both fans. And Skid Row; I was a fan, Roger Carey had turned me on to “34 Hours”, so we talked about that and he happily answered a lot of my questions about the band and that album. He had a Gibson SG that night and I asked what had happened to his Les Paul from Skid Row – stolen, he said, but he really liked his replacement SG, then handed it to me…“Here you go – try it out and see what you think….”.  I was 17, he was 21. He could’ve just told me to clear off, but instead he gave me something to remember. He just loved talking music and sharing time with another young player to talk guitars. What a gent, what a memory.

Andy Clarke… And what was at No 2, Queens Rd?

Mark Hardwick… see Genesis for 60p…not bad

Lucy Pappas… I think I would have been at all the gigs on the poster. Shame I don’t remember them all. Phil, you mentioned Vinegar Joe. I definitely missed that one but I do remember being told that Elkie Brookes boob had fallen out of her frock! Shock horror in Hastings!

Roger Carey… I have this Skid Row pier related flyer too , it was indeed as Phil says Adrian Fisher (who subsequently played for Sparks) on guitar. Brush Shiels was leader on vocals and bass (an innovative player who was playing a lot of chord rhythm stuff that night. Possibly an ex ‘Taste’ guy John? on drums. The Skid gig was summer 1972… Gary Moore’s new band played early 1973 supporting Vinegar Joe.. He joined Thin Lizzy temporarily in 1974 – (have a great radio session of that line up on tape)-then formed Colosseum 11 with Jon Hiseman. I recommended the extended re release CD of their first album “Strange New Flesh “- an overlooked gem of highly crafted rock- bass players check out Neil Murray’s work on this album… Saw this line up at the Marquee 1976… could go on and on about Gary Moore and his musical quests- in my opinion one of the greatest rock guitarists- equal in overall stature to anyone we could discuss… I supported Allan Holdsworth at the White Rock gig in 2010 (with Andy Williams and Simon Page as “Engine clutch gearbox “)- it was in the White Rock bar later that Gary M took my place with Allan H to have a chat- I was more than happy to facilitate!

Tony Court-holmes… think i was there

 

Bands We’ve Seen On Hastings Pier – Tony May

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Tony May talking about  Bands On Hastings Pier

Hastings Pier may just be a derelict and rusting shell at the moment but its great to know that ‘the old girl’ is far from forgotten in the minds of many in the town and a number of nostalgic groups have popped up since the fire on social media websites like Facebook.

One such group –‘ Bands We’ve Seen On Hastings Pier’ http://www.facebook.com/groups/196962362327/ has proved particularly popular and has become THE place to visit on the Internet for those who desire to wax lyrical about anything to do with the Pier’s illustrious musical past.

Reading through the many posts makes you realise just how special a place Hastings Pier was in its heyday and its amazing to see just how many popular performers have contributed memories and/or photos to the group pages. In fact, almost anyone who has ever meant anything to the musical side of Hastings seems to have joined the conversation at some point and told a story or shared a memory or photograph.

Interestingly, those who had a close association with the Pier in the 1970’s seem to be the most vociferous members and there are numerous posts from Hastings favourites like Phil Thornton, Mick Mepham, Pete Fairless, Johnny Mason (Alan Esdaile), Terry Huggins, Ken Dengate, Robert Wren and a host of others.Don’t for a second though think that the party is an all male affair. Oh No! Plenty of ladies including Pam Shallcross, Yvonne Cleland and Margaret Haywood are regular posters and are just as passionate and chatty regarding their own personal memories.

It never ceases to make me smile when I think of the ‘eclectic’ selection of acts to have appeared on the Pier over the years…One of the weirdest groups of all perhaps was ‘Gong’. A ‘space rock, psychedelic, progressive rock band’, the group was never one to do things by half and Phil Thornton remembers that “UV lights, gliss guitar and paper plates” were all ingredients of the bands stage show.

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Genesis & Fruupp – Hastings Pier 12th Sept 1972

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poster supplied by Iain Cobby              cutting supplied by Sarah Harvey

Nick Webb….I  was there yet again

Tony Court-holmes….i was there

Denesis… How some saw a concert that never hapened?

Alan Esdaile… I have emailed back and asked for more information but can anyone else confirm or otherwise that this took place on the 12th September 1972?

Gary Kinch… Genesis gig list here. Bottom of page. Although looking at the list it says Genesis played Hastings pier 3 times in 72 and that isn’t right surely.

http://www.genesis-movement.org/php/listtour.php?tourid=3

Alan Esdaile… Excellent, thanks Gary. The 3rd August was booked for Genesis but was cancelled for some reason(see below ticket) and replaced with Hawkwind. So I imagine then they rebooked to play September.

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Phil Thornton… 1st time I saw them – aged 16 !!!

Pete Fisher… I  was there too – 17!

Tony Court-holmes… SO WAS I

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Genesis & Budgie – Hastings Pier 2nd June 1972 and Budgie 30th June 1972

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ticket supplied by Roger Carey    poster supplied by Iain Cobby  ad Sarah Harvey

Mick Knights….This was the first time I saw Genesis and as I said in my first post with this group, I remember Gabriel standing behind two antenia like spot lights looking menecing. The last time I saw them was the penultimate concert before Gabriel’s departure, at Wembly arena, where they did the Lamb. The last concert I went to this year was Steve Hackett at the Albert Hall, which was two and three quarter hours of pure nostaiga.

Pete Fisher….back in the days when it was cool to sit cross-legged on the floor at concerts…also still have the ticket!

Glenn Piper….I remember this gig (I know, I know, but it’s true, I do) Peter Gabriel wearing his flower costume etc

Tim Bruce….”Wheres my time machine?…”

Barry M Dyke….I was there with my then girlfriend (now my wife of 40 years), Gill. We both agree that Genesis were nowhere near as good as Budgie. Wasn’t Simon Davies, AKA Tony Kane, doing the disco?

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MM Poll Winners Concert, Rock At The Oval, London, 30 September 1972

photos supplied by Pete Fisher

Pete Fisher… MM Poll Winners Concert 30 September 1972 at the Oval Cricket Ground, Kennington, SE11 featured Focus, Genesis, Argent, Jack Bruce, ELP and Wishbone Ash. I was there with a crowd from Hastings and took a few pics.

Derek Clemans… You lucky man I am envious. I would love to have that memory.

Pete Fisher… Just lucky to have been of an age when I could go to gigs around that time Derek and to have known a nice bunch of like-minded people who also wanted to go to many of them. Also happened to have borrowed a camera for the occasion and recently digitised the photos, I’m very glad to say. Delighted to be able to share…

Edge St Leonards… I was there, have some photos, I wonder if anybody recognises them shelves, I have more in colours

Tony Court-holmes… seen a lot of them

Steve Kinch… Think I was there – all a bit of a blur. Didn’t Genesis have some tuning problems?

Pete Prescott… Big day and memory for me ! I was a few weeks shy of 16. I went to the one the year before when the Who played (amazing life changing gig for me) So I was excited to see this line up. I left just after E.L.P. So missed Wishbone Ash. I had a ticket to see Deep Purple at the Sundown at Edmondton ( Helen Tapp wouldn’t come with me as I was too ugly !) I sat with Martin Holliday and Ant Baker about twenty feet behind Martin’s brother Andy, Dave Morse and Barry Watkins (they were far too cool to sit with us). A week or so later Ant Baker convinced me to have another go at singing… with Andy, Dave and Barry ! I got the gig and was in that band (Village) for five years. Andy ended up doing the P.A. for 19 Beatles day’s ! I think Genisis were playing songs from Foxtrot. Gabriel had the red dress and Foxes head. Argent were booed (no idea why) Jan Ackerman did an impromptu jam with Jack Bruce. From the photos I think I was sitting near the Hastings guys. I would love to see anything from that day. For me it was a big deal ! Years later I was in Swiss/ English band at a festival in Austria. We played just before Wishbone Ash. I was too nervous to approach Andy Powell and do the big “I’m such a fan…” thing. I also remember a band called Fudd (I think they were an Irish band) opening up. A few weeks later the singer came and worked at Export Packing in Sittingbourne. Village all had day jobs there. He was a nice guy. We were all thinking “Wow ! You played at the Oval!” The son of the owner was into bands (he was the guy who financed and managed The Enid) maybe that’s why he was there.

Mike Curtis… I was there too!

Beatrice Lacey… I saw Emerson Lake and Palmer at there

Alan King… have you taken the cotton wool out of your ears yet ?

Andy Davies… I was there!, particularly remember Keith Emerson stabbing his keyboards with great big knives.

Bopper Bill… I was there and it was a cool trip. Too far back to see too much but I really dug
Argent. I thought they were a great live band. Hawkwind’s silver machine left an impression:)

Big Phil… It was 50 years ago today (if only the beatles had…..) ! It was my first concert; tremendous day out. At the time into ELP but as a result bought all Focus & Genesis albums. Still have all the tapes including Fudd through to Wishbone Ash. Just loved all the organisation and open air sound. Amazed by the ELP showmanship with Tarkus theatrics, ribbon moog, drum solo; astonishing for a 15 year old. Looking back, very lucky man to have been there!

Gigs the ones that meant so much by Pete Prescott.

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Pete Prescott… GIGS, the ones that meant so much. My top 20 starts with my first. HYDE PARK JULY 3rd. Grand funk railroad humble pie head hands and feet. I was 15, went with two mates from school, mick dean and pete attral. It changed my life, everything became music. I was obsessed from that day. All the people there looked amazing, we were school kids. Humble Pie were stunning. They had just recorded the live at the filmore album (yet to be released) same line up. Frampton was in the band. In Highway we did for day creep from that set. Head hands and feet had Albert Lee. He did country boy and chad hodges was in the band. I came home with my head spinning. .when I got the performance album by humble pie it had some photos from Hyde park. I still look at it. What a gig ! I took the photo. The head in the right is mick dean. He became the drummer in my first band Village. Years later I went to live 8. It was July 2nd. I stayed till past mid night. So I was there again 34 years later (slightly bigger stage !)

Alan Esdaile… Anyone else with the gig that meant so much and memories?

Yvonne Cleland… Yup. Bob Marley and the Wailers, Average White Band, Joe Jackson and the Q-Tips. Crystal Palace Garden Party, June 7th, 1980. The stage was in the lake. We waded in for Bob Marley. Best gig in the world ever, but the lake was filthy and we stunk afterwards!

John Wilde… I was 14it at The Windsor Hotel. with my Uncle Tony. Stage was three feet high and I was standing in front of a Wildly dressed trio called The Jimi Hendrix Experience. My life would never be the same. Thanks Tony.

Lesley Brown… My first Genesis gig. No Gabriel, but I was totally overawed by the lighting and the whole set up. It was pretty late, 1980, Duke was out, and I was blown away by the moment that Phil Collins left the drumming to Chester Thompson to take the mic and sing Afterglow It remains one of my all time goosebump moments.

Graham Blechamber… I saw Genesis on The Duke Tour at Brighton Centre. Fantastic show opening up with Deep in the Motherlode. At one point I shouted out “Wally”. Phil Collins slapped me down with a curt ” your more of one than me”! My first taste of fame! Its was a festivsl tradition shouting out Wally! One person would do it then shouts came from everywhere. Carried over into indoor gigs too till the early 80’s.! No idea of why.

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What 70’s Prog Rock Band should you be in?

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Alan Esdaile… ELP

Jane Hartley… Pink Floyd!

Peter Howard… Genesis

Phil Thornton… Genesis

John Storer… ELP

Perri Ann Haste… ELP

Eric Cawthraw…  depends on how you are defining it, I’ll go for Nektar.

Leigh Wieland-Boys… Genesis…happy with that….blue girls come in every size, some are wise & some otherwise…

Genesis: Together and Apart – BBC2 Sat 4th Oct 2014 – 21.15pm

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A feature-length documentary about one of the most successful British bands in rock music, reuniting Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel, Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford and Steve Hackett to tell their story. The film recounts their extraordinary musical story, exploring the songwriting and the emotional highs and lows. It features previously unseen archive material and rare footage from across their entire career.

David Miller… …but how do those of us stuck out here in the US of A get to see it?

Chris Meachen… If not in the UK, you can watch it online via bbc.co.uk/iplayer programmes are usually available for a week an hour after they’ve aired…

Colin Norton… BBC iPlayer TV programmes are available to play in the UK only.  I am in Texas.

Alan Esdaile… I expect someone will put it on You Tube soon after?

Andy Qunta… Looking forward to seeing this

Graham Belchamber… I  am looking forward to seeing Steve Hackett in Brighton on 22 October, his Genesis Revisited Show with a full band and big lightshow…

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