York & Crypt Bars, Orion Cinema and WHSmith Hastings photo by Anthony ‘Nan’ Morland

photo © Anthony ‘Nan’ Morland

Pauline Richards… Was it the rubber shop just out of sight?

Alan Esdaile… don’t know if it was the rubber shop but if you mean coming down the road next to WH Smith, at this time it was ‘Jax’.

Pauline Richards… Oh. I thought it was either rubber coat shop or criterion cafe. Was Jax a boutique

Alan Esdaile… woman’s clothes shop I think?

Oliver Leonard… is that in the 80s?

Matt Thomas… I would say about 77/78 with Star Wars showing at the cinema

Wendy Weaver… Look at that car! I had one of those

Jan Warren… Which one Wendy? the Citroen DS? – beautiful cars!!

Angela Frances Gardner… ‘The Flea Pit!’

Tracy Birrell… I remember this well in the ’70’s.

Dennis Torrance… My mum worked there Orion cinema in late sixties pass she had greatly used by me and my mates . Got beer by pub next door smuggling it in there and leaving bottles in there . Next morning my mum got home Bad temper about louts drinking in there and beer bottles. I had to turn my head away as first I started laughing got told off but she never knew it was me and my mates . Feel terrible about it now but thanks for the photo which triggered the memory

Nick Prince…

Star Wars showed at the Classic in Queens Road for six weeks in 1977 and didn’t screen at the Orion until 1978, when the Orion ran it on three different occasions, the last of which was an eight day run, which finished on August 31st, 1978, the day it closed. It should be noted that the Orion was still profitable but due to the barring system at the time, the Orion could only get one release in five first run in Hastings, with the Classic getting the other four. The 1/5 bar of new releases to the Orion was infact put in place when the Curzon in St Leonard’s shut in 1977. The Curzon itself having the 1/5 bat before. Prior to January 1977 and for as far back as I know, the Orion had no new releases and in a previous proprietor’s words…. “This is why we show sex!” No one asked for a lecture on the film barring system in Hastings in the late 70’s but you got one I could go back to the 60s and earlier. Lol

Old train compartments – who remembers?

Shared from Jay Whiff Watson growing up in the 50’s https://www.facebook.com/GrowingUpInThe50s/?hc_location=group_dialog

Joe Knight… Those were the days😆lol think that’s a song there

Roger Simmonds… Me!

Alan Parker… Yea I do , not much fun when travelling from Kings X to Newcastle and there is no corridor and you need to pee

David Wilkinson… went in a 1st class one on Swanage Railway the other day

Jane Saunders… yes and the seats were itchy

Alan Essex… Been a long time since I was on a train, do you mean they are no longer like that?

Ian Johnson… Yes you could lay down for a sleep

Chris Meachen… They were the best..

Ernest Ballard… Best way to travel. Luxury and shake rattle and roll too. Beautiful smells and atmosphere

Pete Prescott…  Me! I loved carriages like these !

Angela Frances Gardner…  Loved these trains would use these carriages with my children when they were younger as they could sleep lying down and traveling from London with my cat so she could sit safely on my lap!

Mark Hanna… There are still on a lot of trains across Europe, I love traveling in these.

Liz Dees Dianto… Not that long ago

Alan Pepper… Ah I remember this ! So comfortable too . Now known as bus replacement service !!

Dave Nattress… Definitely recall these. Many of these compartments and old carriages just like this much older indeed still exist on preserved railways like the Bluebell and Kent and East Sussex and many more of course. Blimey, it’s hot in this anorak, and this article reminds me I need to renew my old train-spotter’s diary. Never over-comfortable these seats, itchy indeed and occasionally one would be crammed in 5 passengers each side, with a couple of bowler hatted old chaps reading their Telegraphs and Times newspapers. For a lifetime non-smoker like me, get in one of these with a couple of smokers – not good!!

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Malcolm Mitchell, High Street, Hastings closed photo by Anthony ‘Nan’ Morland

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Phil Gill… Class outfitters

Martin Richter… all the army boots you could eat

Glenn Piper… veritable Aladdins cave of curiosity’s and lots of boots & great coats

Lucy Pappas… Bought my very wide leg sailor trousers from there! Loved Malcolm Mitchell x

Phil Gill… Lucy, You could have washed them before you turned up at the youth club wearing them though.

Lucy Pappas… Phil, I apologise for the fishy smell. Thinking about it, that would have been when we first become friends, 50+ years ago….

Phil Gill… I didn’t mind fishy, it was the beer stains from some Norwegian sailor’s night out.

Bruce Zebedee… Great shop

Colin Wells… Malcs bootique!!

Pete Blomfield… Datsun 100a or 120y?

Jeff McCall… Great shop, bought a purple parker from there, it had a bullet hole in it!

Gerry Fortsch… I remember that they sold every thing so one day I asked for a torpedo and they came up with one.

Fred Marsh… I wonder what some of our dfls would have made of it

Lloyd Johnson… Fred, Hastings is my home town.I moved to London in 1966 I went Ore youth Club with Patrick Mitchell who’s uncle owned MM .I opened my own shop/stall in 1967 in Kensington market a year later.In 1973 I was buying similar items that we’re sold in Malcolm Mitchell’s the High st,Baldocks and Winters shoe shop in George st.,Cyril Savages in Kings Road and Apps shoe shop in Silverhill by that time the stock I remembered from the early 60s was considered vintage clothing. I remember. buying an amazing W11 leather dispatch riders jacket from MM which I wore during my Art school days at The Brassey Institute above the Library in 1961/62…I guess you could say in some ways all those shops including MM were a great inspiration for me during my time. in the clothing business as was the whole teenage experience of growing up in Hastings with The Pamdor, Fiesta ,the trad jazz at the caves and the groups on The Pier. I think it is nice to see some new small innovative businesses bring some style to the town. The DFLs’ as you seem to call the creatives from London that have chosen Hastings to make their home. Several friends from London have moved to Hastings and St.Leonard’s and I think they contribute extra style and entertainment to the Town…..

Mark Syrett… Top shop

Mike Waghorne… Top clothe’s shop in the late 60’s Malcom’s boutique we used to call it !

John Mcewen… Best work boots ever!

Dave Nattress… Even us Bexhill boys knew Malcolm’s Boutique, always on the tourist may with the Trading Post

Jim Breeds… April 2021 view (Google Streetview)

Alan Esdaile… Jim, hasn’t got the same smell as the original photo!

The Saddle Tramps – Ore Social Club Hastings early 60’s photo by Anthony ‘Nan’ Morland

Melvin Grant, Kenny Comfort and Pete Bailey.

photo © Anthony ‘Nan’ Morland

Matt Thomas… Is this Grove Road Alan?

Alan Esdaile… I thought it was Grove Road when I saw it at The SMART meeting but 2 people said it was Ore Centre.

Kev Towner… that’s definitely The Ore Centre

Stuart Moir… Great name for a country rock band, I wish we’d thought of that one

Lloyd Johnson… Ore Youth Club. Stuart, The photo is the days of Duane Eddy ,Rebel Rouser,The Shadows ,Apache, The Ventures ,Walk Don’t Run and Bonanza on Telly….

Claire Triance… Went to a disco there next to old b and q and now aldi ??

Sandie Carlyon… I live next door to Mel

 

The Selecter – The Crypt (anyone know the year?) & The Hamsters chat.

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supplied by The Crypt Archive Facebook Page.

Anyone confirm the year?

John Storer… I’m guessing somewhere between 1991, when Pauline Black rejoined the band (after having left in 1982), and 2006 when she left again. During that period, they were always billed as “The Selecter with Pauline Black”. They reformed again this year, and start a tour next week.

An aside: When she left in 82, she was replaced by Stan Campbell but nothing was ever recorded. Stan went on to record with The Special AKA and is the singer on “Free Nelson Mandela”. Life has been cruel for Stan, who is currently detained indefinitely under the Mental Health Act. However, if you ever get a chance to hear his 1986 solo album, do so – it is truly one of the great forgotten recordings

A further aside: Their first single, the eponymous “Selecter” (B-side of The Specials’ “Gangsters”) is the ringtone on my phone!

Jim Breeds… Wednesday Sept 8th. So one of the following years. 2010, 2004, 1999, 1993, 1982, 1976.

Peter Fairless…. 2010 John.

John Mcewen… Does anyone remember the Hamsters at The Crypt? With Slim playing pool with his guitar whilst belting out a Hendrix number?

Karen Sweatman Was Blackman… The Hamsters always used to play a lot of Hendrix and used to finish their set with Z Z Top’s Le Grange

John Mcewen… Top band. Their version of Mercury Blues was brilliant!

Yvonne Cleland… I think I saw them the first time they played the Crypt. They were excellent, but a coachload of fans from London were there and moshing so enthusiastically that I was scared I’d get hurt!

Jim Breeds… I saw them last year (not in Hastings). Almost their final ever gig.

Dave Nattress… Hamsters – fabulous. Saw at Brighton Dome long ago supporting The Blues Band with Hoax on the same bill and also on the seafront near the pier in Brighton – can’t recall venue name – small, sweaty place. Got 2 x double CD’s, “The Jimi Hendrix Memorial Concerts – 1995” and “10 Years of Rodent Rock” – great albums.

SMART Coffee meet report 56

A BIG thank you to everyone who turned up today at the SMART meeting. Great turn out and sorry if I didn’t get chance to chat to everyone. This was our first meeting since February 2020 and it was wonderful catching up with old friends and lots of new ones. Among the newbies this time were Nan (Anthony Morland), Dave Trodd, Rose Watling, Rob and Maura Williams, Claire Longsdale, Dave Muriel, Melvin Grant, Lance Collins and Kenny Comfort. Nan had with him some great photos of The Temperance Seven taken at the Bathing Pool in 1961,  Screaming Lord Sutch, Cliff Bennett, Gerry & The Pacemakers from Hastings Pier, ABC and Regal Cinema and shop front photos of The Orion Cinema/WH Smith, Gifford Boyd, Malcolm Mitchell, Ken Apps and more. Claire was chatting about her very interesting version of Mike Oldfield’s Tubular Bells, as well as her music career. Kenny was talking about his happy memories of The Saddle Tramps, The Humperdinks and working with John Winch. Dave Muriel had photos of when he was the poster boy playing the guitar, in the Kenneth More film ‘Some People’, which he got paid £5! Also talking about his days in a skiffle band and the time Peter Frampton played upstairs in the Pam Dor with the group ‘The Preachers’. Lance was pleased to say that he is back doing disco’s again with a huge demand for his Retro roadshow, where the audience love dancing to the 70’s and 80’s music he plays.  Dave Trodd was pleased to hear everyone loves his photos of Alan at The Disc Jockey, The Teenbeats and the biker photos and he’s working his way through some old negatives, so expect more goodies soon. Too many other people to mention but this is just a small bit of what I remember. If you have anything else you want to add from interesting conversations then please do so.

Colin Bell… Great to see old friends and new faces, well done Alan.

Jon McCallion… So sorry Alan Julie and I could not make it. It is our grand daughter‘s third birthday but will see you next month

Stephen Moran… It was great Alan thank you.

Monica Bane… Well done from me as well Alan. Would have liked to have chatted more, was a good turnout. Fantastic Alan.

Lucy Pappas… I must put it in my diary and get to the next one!

Wendy Weaver… It was a lovely afternoon Alan. Nice to see so many familiar faces again and chatting to new friends. Looking forward to the next one.

Pete Prescott… It was great to see everyone wasn’t it!

Lance Collins… It was my first visit. But not my last. Thank you for making me welcome and meeting new friends with the same interests. And a few old mates as well

Mick O’Dowd… Alan the old magic is still there even after the enforced break. (How was it in prison?) only joking. Such a mix of people. I had trouble distinguishing between old & newbies. Great afternoon! Well done! Bring on the next! A big thank you to you for organising it.

Geoff Peckham…  I was spending a pleasant day meeting old friends and new at the exhumed – I mean resumed (!) – SMART meet in Hastings, It was a smashing afternoon in good company, with thanks to Alan.

Claire Lonsdale…I enjoyed my first visit and met some very interesting people. Look forward to the next meet. I wished I’d seen the photos of the Temperance Seven. My good friend John Watson was the banjo player in the Temperance Seven.

Lloyd Johnson… Claire, Re: Anthony’Nan’ Moreland’s photos of ‘The Temperance Seven’. The are of the first gig we went to on Hastings Pier in 61/62. ‘Nan’ always had a camera with him and has an incredible archive of photos of past times 50s/60s +….he should really have an Exhibition at Hastings Museum!…

Alan Esdaile… Good to see you Claire. The images are now on the pages here.

Mick O’Dowd… All this Temperance Seven stuff is making me skiddy-iddy-iddy! I’ll just have to drop in my oolong and straighten the day!

Paul Huggett… An enjoyable get together, and a fun chat with Barry French & Lance Collins about the Band v Disco days of the 70s

Ian Mcgilvray… Great pic of Tich

Mark Reed… Holyfuckingshitballs! Tich!… those were some incredible times!

Martyn Baker… And Tich is smiling in this photo. That has to be a first!

Iain Cobby… Where were you Nick Webb!

Nick Webb… Iain, So sorry completely forgot will be at next one.

 

The Saddle Tramps – Ore Social Youth Club 1960/1961

supplied by Hastings Groups from 1958 to the present.
Kenny Comfort, Pete Bailey and Melvin Grant. Picture taken at Ore Social Youth Club about 1960/61

John Wilde… These guys look totaly cool!

Dave Nattress… They sure do John – wonderful pictures.

Harry Randall… HaHa! Pete (Gossimor) Bailey still got his Strat under his bed!