Hollywood Killers, Before The Storm, Negative Earth Band – Falaise Hall 19th May 1978

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Martyn Baker… Simon Fuller

Peter Fairless… The start of something big…

Jim Penfold …. Simon Fuller’s first promotion 19th May 1978…the Hollywood Killers…..the man who invented Pop Idol/American Idol..manager of The Spice Girls/David Beckam/Andy Murray/ Annie Lennox etc etc etc…..if you have a magnifying glass his name is bottom right…..his Easybeat Promotions promoted us a couple more times that year……what went wrong!!!!(for him)

Tim Moose Bruce… I remember Before The Storm. They supported Die Laughing a few times and I think changed their name to Billy Whizz im my memory serves me. A memorable gig was at the caves.

Jim Penfold… Happy days! I’ve got the Hastings Observer’s review of that gig and will post it when I can find it! It says promoter Simon Fuller raised £100 for charity for this sold out gig!….it’s a pity Simon didn’t go on to bigger things……

Mike Mitchell… I remember seeing Simon strolling down the road stuffing fiver’s into his pockets… We got paid a fiver for being bottom of the bill. My first professional engagement as a drummer. Happy days indeed.

Hollywood Killers & Die Laughing – Hastings Pier 4th March 1978

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supplied by Mick Mepham

Mick Mepham….It’s Christmas in Haiti in March …. I remember it well Alan, it was the year after 1977 …..

Phil Gill… You sure Mick? I thought we went straight to 79. I tend to be a bit vague around then.

Mick O’Dowd… I’ve got this down as 1978.

Bernard Jeffery….”this takes me back”, I remember playing this one

Terry Pack….Dick Rowley and I used to take terrible liberties with Jim’s songs: ‘arranging’ them in weird and wonderful ways.

Ralph Town…. A Christmas Show in March….sounds about right 🙂

Mick Mepham… Definitely 1978 Phil, honest….

Phil Thornton… I have a vague memory of this one …. was I in the band (Die Laughing) at this point ?

Philip Meston… Wasn’t Ashley Pepper on keyboards? I just checked, Ashley Pepper was the keyboard player in 1976. I just didn’t know the dates! 🙂

Mark Randall… Ex Be Bop Deluxe?

Jim Penfold…. I …..Charlie Tumahai from Be Bop Delux was in the band around 1979/80t was part of our Xmas Tour in March 1978 great to see this again….Hollywood Killers are back in action at the moment……would be great to play in Hastings again www.hollywoodkillers.com

Bernard Goffredo… Yes that would be good to see

Mick Mepham…. I don’t think so Phil, I joined in about August of ’77. Hi Jim, I think I have several posters, flyers etc of you guys. Would you like copies?

John Wilde… WE want the Hollywood Killers HERE!

Ralph Town… If its at all poss,I think The Killers should play at the pier opening….deffo.

Jan Warren… Die Laughing!! – yeah, I did and hope I will, thanks guys! 🙂 

Conan Howard… I remember Ralph and me (Conan) LEN .. Samisen / going to see you Bernie at Covent Garden in the 70s .. keep well old chap… Len..

Ralph Town… Man I must’ve been pissed.I don,t remember any of it!! LOL I used to help load gear with Jim Penfold and the Hollywood Killers from 1976 to 78.I was working with Ashley Pepper at the time.I DO remember doing a gig at Oxford rag week and getting chatted up by Zoe Ashcroft,famous Playschool presenter….good times.

 

Tonight plus Andy Arthurs & The R.A.C. plus The Hollywood Killers – Hastings Pier 16th Dec 1978

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supplied by Mick Mepham & Mick O’Dowd

Mike Mitchell… Wasn’t that a Simon Fuller promotion? Mr Fuller’s first step into the big time I believe.

Pete Fairless… Well, not his first but an early one…

Mick O’Dowd….This is the gig that I helped out Simon Fuller with. He asked me to go 50/50 on promoting this but when he told me who the band was I said no. Ok, says he, it’s ok my Dad has paid for the band can you just help on the advertising/promotion etc. I said OK. The concert drew just 250 punters. Lucky escape that time but it didn’t stop young Simon though!  He lost money. Probably the only time he did after that.

Alan Esdaile… He now manages The Beckhams, Andy Murray, Elvis Presley Estate and probably many more.

Mick Mepham… Handy little roster! Always said he knew his onions after the first time I met him. We can’t forget that he also managed the Teenbeats too.

Mark Randall…In love with the majorette that used to lead the band!

Mike Mitchell… I think I still have one of those Tonight badges in a drawer upstairs

 

Snafu plus Krazy Kat – Hastings Pier 28th Feb 1976

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Terry Pack…  I would have been a member of The Hollywood Killers in Feb 76, but have no recollection of this gig (as usual; maybe I had a double for 20 years?).

Ralph Town… Terry,was Ashley Pepper in the band in Feb 76?? Coz if he was,I would have been his “roadie” at that time and I cant remember that gig either smile emoticon

Terry Pack… Yep, Ralph, Ashley Pepper was in the band then. Maybe we ALL had doppelgängers!

Alan Esdaile… Found another cutting (see above) This might be the reason you don’t remember this gig. Possibly Hollywood Killers did not support in the end and replaced by Krazy Kat?

Dave Nattress… I don’t remember this gig or gigs but saw Krazy Kat supporting the wonderful Be Bop Deluxe at Eastbourne Congress in 1976 and they were really good. I’ve got 2 vinyl albums of Krazy Kat which likewise are good. Snafu were gigging a lot in this period and I have a CD of theirs – a sort of best of I think. Need to check out personnel and tracks when I get a bit of time later today.

Jim Penfold… My sister promoted this gig (Rollerball Productions) and we were billed to support (Hollywood Killers) but for some reason we didn’t!

Gerry Fortsch… I was there.

Bernard Jeffery & Charlie Tumahai from Be Bop Deluxe late 70’s

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Bernard Jeffery…..late seventies rehearsals with Charlie Tumahai From Be Bop Deluxe in The Box Hastings. The Hollywood Killers.

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Bernard Jeffery… Above, great piece about a great musician and a great bloke.Mentions the time I played with him in the Hollywood Killers back in the late seventies.

Tim Phillips… Interesting article. Be Bop Deluxe was one of my favourite bands in the mid 70s. I can remember riding my motorbike to Eastbourne to see one of their gigs with my then girlfriend (who went on to be lead singer of The Mobiles). I think the gig was at The Congress. The ride back to Hastings to take Anna home was one of the coldest motorbike rides I can remember smile emoticon

Bernard Jeffery…  I loved all of their albums and saw them live many times so it was a real buzz to play with Charlie and meet the rest of the band at Hollywood Killers gigs

Dave Nattress… Be Bop Deluxe were fabulous – I have all their stuff on Vinyl and CD and love Sunburst Finish and Modern Music.  Samisen – where’s Sarah H, do you remember we did “Ships in the Night”.  Indeed Tim, it was the Congress as I was there.  I do remember they were really, really loud.  RIP Charles, your contribution holding the bass down whilst Bill Nelson went off on his space-missions was vital.  I stumbled across a great Bio of Bill Nelson and Be Bop Deluxe, published in 2008, written by Paul Sutton Reeves – “Music In Dreamland”  “Bill Nelson and Be Bop Deluxe”.  A long read but worth it.

Tim Phillips… Yes, I agree that Be Bop Deluxe were really loud at The Congress. I had a motorbike with straight through exhaust pipes which sounded incredibly loud (probably made me quite unpopular in Bexhill). On the ride home I couldn’t hear my bike because my ears were still ringing from the concert lol.

 

More St Clements Caves Hastings gigs – 1978 – who went to The Caves gigs ask Mark Randall?

Mark Randall… Back in the early 70s when the Randall family used to hire two sherpas and trek to Pelham Crescent for our summer holiday: we visited St Clement’s cave for a tour. The guide said that it still hosted bands and had a night club there on occasions. Anyone here gigged there/went to gig?

Phil Gill… Seen a few bands down in the caves – The Breathers, and Richard Strange are two that spring to mind. I might even have played there, can’t recall who with but I do have a memory of lugging gear for miles down a path and then inside the caves.

Ann Gill… Did it involve Melanie Stace the sister of singing teacher Emma?

Peter Fairless… Yeah, went to a few gigs there.

Tony Davis… DJ’d there with Merlins Music Box a couple of times. Think it was for Debenhams Social Club. I do have the same memory as Phil about it being a long way to lug gear. Think they were good nights though. Interesting to see if someone could organise something down there now.

Peter Fairless… It’s full of Disney stuff, though, isn’t it?

Harry Randall… Gigged a few times in the caves like Phil said lugging gear several miles and once inside lugging it through narrow passageways Sandstone everywhere took about a week to clean the gear after good times though!

Tim Moose Bruce… Saw Die Laughing down there. Great night.

Chris Baker… Certainly have! Remember “Bear” our drummer complaining that the echo was like playing with another drummer about half a mile away!

Pete Fisher… I have very hazy memories of what would have been my very first gig with an electric band – a one-off engagement for me and my schoolmate John Davis (on bass), organised by a drummer who sounded like he’d trained at Butlins pensioner dances, and provided the only transport, a Reliant three-wheeler…cold, damp and miserably paid…

Dave Nattress… Samisen played there a couple of times.  Good gigs, summer, lots of foreign students filling the place up but yeah what an ordeal lugging all the gear down from the road on the top of the West Hill, down the path. I’m thinking none of the cabs had got wheels – no chance, and then down the steps, another narrow path, in, and what seemed like miles down the long descending sandy path to the main cavern where we played.  And then, bonus, do it in reverse.  So long ago I’m guessing the sound wasn’t great but the bodies would have helped soak up the reverb.

Tich Turner…  I performed there in 1967/68 [?], with Deep Purple. Just about the worst get-in ever. But this gig really sticks in my mind for another reason. The place was absolutely rammed. We played the 1st set & by the end of that, the condensation was pouring down the walls. We went back on & got through to the very last number, when there was this enormous ‘THWANG’, I looked round to see what the hell it was & there was Lennie Benton, his face an absolute picture. He had the body of his bass in one hand & the neck in another. Only thing was, they weren’t joined together! He had an old semi-acoustic bass, a Framus or something & the condensation had completely wasted the glue holding it together. My dear old Dad, put it back together & Len swore it played even better afterwards.

Jim Penfold & The Hollywood Killers – TV Photo at The Box 1978

A great picture from Jim Penfold & The Hollywood Killers from the website

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I remember doing some dates with them including Guildford Civic Hall. Should have been chart stars ‘The Arrows’ headlining but they cancelled and were replaced by new boy band ‘Stevenson’s Rocket’.

Jim wrote: “Great memory!! Yes I remember it well…..

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Jim Penfold…..The tv photo was taken at the Box in 1978…..we (the Hollywood Killers) are all posing behind a TV set with no screen! Me, Neil ‘Chilli Willi’ Aplin,Berni Schmirnoff, Alexander Moylegrove lll and Pete Poodle…..we first rehearsed and recorded demos Goodbye Suicide….here’s the original 7″ single remastered

Yvonne Cleland…. Min x

Chris Baker…Min… Simon P Medhurst! Lovely bloke, excellent musician. Genius gold and silversmith, wonderfully creative electronics engineer. Much missed.

Yvonne Cleland…. Quite hard being in a band with him though. He’d often turn up 2 hours late or not at all, depending on what he was doing at the time and who with! 😀 Enjoyed playing with him and had fantastic fun making weird and wonderful sounds. Happy days.

 

Hollywood Killers – Earlydaze 1978

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Jim Penfold… Earlydaze’ …..7 track album (inc Goodbye Suicide) by Jim Penfold & The Hollywood Killers . Early recordings from 1978. Available to download on ITunes/cdbaby/amazon etc on Friday Sept 25th. — with Bernard Jeffery, Neil Aplin and Jim Penfold.

Mike Mitchell… Is that Robin Heggy on bass?

Alan Esdaile… Not sure Mike, anyone confirm? Good photo of Min smiling and Bernard Jeffery, Neil Aplin and Jim Penfold.

Dave Nattress… Yes, definitely Robin Heggie on bass – he was in The Prisoners with myself, Mick Bridgeland on Drums and Andy Leaney on Guitar. He left when he was offered the Killers gig.

Dave Nattress… Meant to say about Robin, nice guy and a great solid bass player for one (back then) so young.

Jim Penfold & The Hollywood Killers – Satan’s Song 1978

In 1978 Jim Penfold & THe Hollywood Killers recorded 3 tracks at Gooseberry Studios in Soho, London. 2 tracks : Goodbye Suicide (A side) and Tramp (B side) were released on Rollerball Records. John Peel loved Goodbye Suicide and played it many times on Radio 1. The 3rd track Satan’s Song was never made public…..but now ……here it is! Featuring Jim on vocals/rhythm guitar, Neil ‘Chilli Willi’ Aplin on lead guitar, Berni Schmirnoff on drums, Pete Poodle on bass and Alexander Moylegrove the 3rd (‘Min’) on saxophone.