SMART Coffee meet report 54

SMART coffee meet no 54, a great start to 2020. Among the newbies this time were Tom Cowan and Cliff Evans.  Tom was talking about his group ‘Menticide’ and happy memories of the group and John Peel playing the record. Cliff was talking about his rock band ‘Tank’ and also when he was with ‘Chicken Shack’. Also talking about his new venture with Lauren. the Aquarius International Club with dj’s playing 60’s and 70’s rock and psych tracks at the monthly happening at the White Rock Hotel. Mick O’Dowd have with him Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys book ‘Wouldn’t It Be Nice’ and was over the moon that people have found at last photos of ‘Jim The Jolly Fish’ that used to go along the seafront, which he has been searching for forever. Monica Bane confirmed that the band photo that Tony May could not confirm who it was, is definitely the Jazz Caverners at St Clements Caves featuring Johnny Griffiths. Reg Wood had with him a copy of Wizzard single Ball Park Incident, autographed at the pier gig in 1973. Gerry Powell had an interesting  pile of cover version singles, released on the Embassy record label and sold in Woolworth, as well as some great flexi discs. Pete Houghton had  lotsof rare autograph posters from the Hastings Pier gigs including Alvin Stardust, Zzebra, Esperanto, Stackridge, Judas Priest, Chilli Willi & The Red Hot Peppers, Gong, Motorhead, Fusion Orchestra and a band I don’t remember ‘The Lou’s’. Anyone know them? they must have been a support to someone.Pete Prescott had some exciting rock books including the 1960s scrapbook by Robert Opie  with a great Hendrix painted cover and a Sotheby’s rock ’n’ roll and film memorabilia book with Jim Morrison on the cover. Also a special collectors e.p. of The Split Knee Loons! This is a small bit of what I remember, if you were talking about anything interesting or anything else you wish to add then please do so.

Mods and Rockers – Hastings seafront in 1964

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Patrick Batty… Anyone remember when the Mods & Rocker hit town & there was a battle on the beaches between them. My first vehicle was a Vespa scooter which I soon exchanged for a motorbike so you could say I was both a Mod & a Rocker but I wasnt involved in this battle in 1964.

Mick Knights… I was out of town camping with a few friends, I do remember being stopped by the boys in blue when we tried to get back into town on the Sunday. I did take a ride along the sea front on my elderly Vespa 125cc where there were lines of abandoned scooters, as their owners had been marched out of town and we’re not being allowed back to collect them. These days that kind of policing would most probably be against their human rights!

John Williams… I was one parked outside The Albion down from Peckham

Jan Warren… Love this …… and Quadraphenia is one of my all-time fave films!! 

John Williams… Well it was just like that we were good boys

Mick O’Dowd… I was there. I worked in what is now the Italian Way by the Roundabout & Fountain. Watched it all happen from upstairs window.

Alan Esdaile… I remember being on the West Hill with my mates, collecting all the discarded Corona bottles and taking them back to the shop to get back the deposits.

Dave Nattress… Greatly nostalgic. I do recall troubles on and off, although I was only 11 in 64. Later when at Hastings College several class-mates came over from Eastbourne on scooters – mainly or maybe exclusively Lambrettas. Bexhill, where I lived, also has its fair share of scooters and all in all, lots of mates had scooters or bikes. Some of my friends now have pukka bikes. My old man, when asked by me, to lend me a few quid to buy a Yamaha 80 in about 1969 said no, you’ll kill yourself, wait till you’re 17 and get a car – which I did. A few good mates have gone, bikes/cars. Does anyone recall the Hell’s Angels “Branded” chapter based around Bexhill and Hastings for a few years. Several mates were in and often the guys used to drink at the Castle in Town Hall Square Bexhill.

Chris Sambrook… I was  11 in 1964. We lived along Bexhill Road. There was a constant roar of Motorbikes. 2 Mods broke down outside our house. My Mum invited them in for a Cup of Tea. From what i remember they seemed ok and grateful. They manged to get their scooter repaired and mum   said to them stay out of trouble. To be fair my Mum & Dad later said they would have done the same for the Rockers.

Pete Fisher… watched the Mods being marched out of town from my bedroom window in Fairlight Road…

John Williams… We was not marched we was assisted lol. We slept in the cave at top of rock nore cambered up there good fun.

Pete Fisher… sorry, I meant gently guided…!!! (I was only 9!)

Tony Davis… I can remember the man who lived opposite me in Plynlimmon Road has one of these big Ford Consul cars and he drove me around town in it to see all the mods and rockers. I was about 11 at the time. I remember us driving around the roundabout outside the Italian Way three of four times. Think the IT was called Iorio’s then.

John Williams… There you go me and my old mum on my scooter in Peckham up the mods

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Chris Leek… Takes me back, I remember I had never seen so many people on the sea front and the noise and when I got up to the west hill they were up there to.

Jan Warren… Yeah Dave I remember all the bikes and scooters in Bexhill, we all used to hang out on the seafront in Fortes Coffee Bar and “Ags”, the Amusement Arcade, especially downstairs where they had a juke box and pinball machines!! – I also remember The Castle pub being a bit of a bikers pub in those days!!

John Williams… We slept in the cave at top of rock nore cambered up there good fun

Monica Bane… I remember so well! Living in Tackle way when they all jumped off the hill in front of my house!

Madeline Scalliwags Reade… I remember it so well. My parents had the Guest House over the top of Faggins. The police were chasing them up Oak passage blowing their whistles.

Who remembers Dr Findlay’s Casebook?

Perri Ann Haste… Doctor Finlay’s casebook, blast from the past.

Wendy Weaver… Janet was the assistant

Tony Court-holmes… my nan used to love that

John Beeching… Aaaaaaaaaw Janet.

Pete Prescott… “Would you like a cup of tea Dr Finlay?” “For God’s sake Janet ! Can a man no have a shit in peace !” I remember it well. One episode had a lazy gardener covering all the weeds in a customer’s garden up to save digging them up. I always thought that must have taken him ages and been would have been easier just doing it. that would have been about 55 years ago. The pointless stuff my brain stores !

Jack Irving… “Doctor Finlay! I’m having a severe case of heartburn!” Dr. Finlay replies “Then get yer tits out of ma cup of tea!”

Dave Nattress… My Mother used to watch it and I remember it very well. Sunday night wasn’t it – 7.30 start for an hour? On balance a nice pleasant programme, no sex or violence or bad language. Way before I knew anything about any of that!!! Innocence!!!

David Edwards… Would you be wanting me in my negligee tonight Dr Cameron? Oh yes Janet yes. I think Dr Snoddy from the public health had a thing for Janet

 

Aquarius International Club Hastings – Saturday 18th Jan 2020

Aquarius International Club say... Come and join us on Saturday January 18th and kick off 2020 with a groovylicious night of 60s/70s heavy music and cool vibes in the comfort of the basement bar at the White Rock Hotel on Hastings glorious seafront. Your hosts Lauren and Cliff will be joined by special guest DJ ‘Johnny Gorillar’ plus other DJ’s to be announced soon. Hastings very own Johnny Gorillar, mighty frontman/guitarist of 70’s vibe rockers ‘Admiral Sir Cloudesley Shovell’ and heavy psych legend ‘Gorilla’. Johnny will be spinning his awesome collection of heavy vintage vinyl through the Aquarius sound system so whether you want to have a blowout on the dance floor to the psychedelic backdrop of our liquid light show or chill out in style on a Chesterfield armchair with a cocktail in our chill out room and watch vintage movies, the choice is all yours. Above are a tantalising teazer of some of the mind blowing tunes we’ll be spinning on the night so come and let it all out on the dance floor or relax with a cocktail in our chill out room. Here’s wishing all you cool cats a super groovy festive season and we look forward to seeing you on January 18th – Let’s kick off 2020 in the only way Hastings knows how! We look forward to seeing you all there!

 

Who had a paper round?

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Dennis Torrance… My paper round was for Mitchell s queens road hell of a round all weathers got papers of train first then the delivery s. So cold some mornings wet but Christmas time tips was amazing. I remember the carrying sack so heavy and bike ride home and school. I also remember my paper bag not water prove soaked papers sometimes papers soggy trying to push them into the doors falling apart lol and getting on my bike fast getaway. I did get many compliments lol. 18 shillings and sixpence a week I got and many a puncture in my tyres.

John Warner… one paper round, I had a morning paper round, an evening paper round, a Sunday paper round when I collected the money. I also had a shoe delivery round and a grocery delivery round. I was one busy kid.

Pete Prescott… 1968/69.Teynham in north Kent. It was dark when I started. I was so frightened. On my first day the wind took a lot of papers out of my hand am blew them across the front of several houses.i thought it was the end ! I got £1 per week. If I was out when I had collected the money on the Saturday it came out of my wages. One time I was £1.50 out so worked three weeks for nothing. It was a long round. I ended up In Lynsted lane. It took an hour and a half (In all weather’s) then I went to school. I ended up asking my friend Mick Deane to help. We got 50p each. If I then walked to school I saved the bus fare. I could then buy records or (gasp !) Levi jeans!

Lloyd Johnson… 1950s.I had a morning round ,an evening round and Saturday round for Gladwish’s in Ore,Hastings.The morning round was right out in Pett Village across fields over fences to farm yards and vicarages, lovely in the summer but the winter was awful and all before school.

Jeff Belton… My paper round was some of the roads in Blackfen / Sidcup Kent areas in the late mid 1970’s . Quiet along round. Sunday was the worst day , because mags and leaflets came with the papers so it made the bag heavy. Nice reward at the end of the year when I was allowed to pick an annual I would like. Was paid £10 for doing the round.

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Wild Angels Rob(Bob)O’Connor unconscious on Hastings Pier 16th June 1968

Neil Partrick… I have a album by the ‘Wild Angels’, a rock n roll revival type band whose management at least were located in Catford, which was released in the late 1970s. The members look like they’re in their 30s. Don’t think there’s a Rob O’Connor on it though. Different band altogether?

Mike Raxworthy… Me too.

Ken Copsey… Rob O’Connor was the drummer with the Wild Angels. I met him at a bootsale last year and he is a lovely bloke. There is fantastic footage of him and the band backing Gene Vincent on his last UK tour. I felt honoured to meet someone who had backed Gene. The whole documentary is on YouTube and is very touching. Gene is obviously on his uppers but when he sings he still has the voice and the presence. The real deal.

Neil Partrick… Duuuhh… sorry, Rob (Bob) O’Conner the drummer is on the ’70s LP. They’re obviously the same band. I’ll remember to check Wikipedia first next time (although it’s not always totally reliable)

Brian Inwood… I was just browsing to see if Bob was still around and came across this website. Bob left my band ( the Deadbeats) in the early sixties to join the Wid Angels and I know he backed Gene Vincent. Bob came from Bellingham by the way. His agent was the same as ours and was based in Catford.

 

Teenagers and Jukebox – Hastings 1960’s

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Roy Penfold… This news clipping came up in the Historical Hastings group https://www.facebook.com/groups/historicalhastings/. Any ideas as to venue?

Phyllis Mendenhall… Could it be in Dimarco s along teddy boy walk which is where the Carlisle’s is.

Lloyd Johnson… It maybe The Oyster Bar that was in Robertson Street in the 50s…that’s where the Ted’s hangout…

Georgie Fame and John Mayall’s Blues Breakers – Hastings Pier Allnighter 14th October 1966

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photo: Georgie Fame and Rick Brown (bass) (Amsterdam, October 1966)

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Gerry Fortsch… I wish I had been there

Joe Knight… George!!! Oh Yeah

Alan Esdaile… Anyone know who played with John Mayall on this gig? Eric Clapton would have been with Cream by this time but could have been Peter Green or Mick Taylor?

David Finn… Peter Green!

Pete Fisher… can’t believe I missed Peter Green in my hometown, but I was only 11, just started Grammar School…discovered Peter Green and John Mayall two years later…

Cheryland Jim Ramshaw… Remember that night well the place was buzzing

Pete Fisher… According to wiki, Eric Clapton left the Bluesbreakers in July 1966, and was replaced by Peter Green, so this would have been with Greenie…

 

 

The Who – Hastings Pier 24th December 1965

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Mick Knights….I was also at this one as well and was the ballroom was only half full!!

Andre Martin…..I want to know more about the Lurking Cromwells – anybody ??

Bob Green…..I know nothing of the Lurking Cromwells, but what a great name!

Mick O’Dowd… Talkin’ ’bout my generation…!!!