photo: Chris Roberts
Dave Trodd… Does anyone remember Roy Carpenter singing at the talent competitions on Hastings Pier, late 50’s early 60’s? He always got the biggest cheer of anyone. It would be great if anyone has any photos?
supplied by Len Smith Eastbourne Bands From 1960 on.
Here’s when they played the pier in 1964.
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Roy Penfold… These teenagers and their raves…..I just don’t know what the world will come to!
Alan Esdaile… Lots of the gigs were called raves in those days. I wonder when it first appeared.
Glynn Brown… I have a feeling they were the support band when the Honeycombs performed on Hastings Pier in the early 1960’s.
Andre Martin… You are right Glynn when they changed their name to Shelly…. this week we have The HoneyCombs and the support from Brighton – Shelly – formerly known as The Sabres, who were about to embark on a future playing in Europe, and would become top names in both Denmark and Scandinavia within the next few years. This was to be one of the last appearance from the band in Hastings.
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Keith Flanigan… Anyone know the names of the guys in the Eastbourne band the Sabres, back in the early 60s.
Alan Esdaile… you were asking about The Sabres line up. Pretty sure its the same line up as Shelley????
Ken Copsey… Love the Wem Watkins Dominator, matching Copicat and Burns Sonic guitar.
Keith Flanigan… 1963?
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Andre Martin…. Gosh another month has almost gone, and we are now Saturday 26th September 1964, and the Happy Ballroom, is moving into week TWO of this winter programme – all you can dance to for 5/- !
Looking at the Billing I see that headlining is The Herd and in support Brighton based Shelley. My immediate thoughts were, was this the same Herd that had Peter Frampton in the line up, but research tells me that he in fact did not join the group until 1966. This was the original group that he would join a little later. There is not much to tell, other than the group came from south London and had three record releases for Parlophone, that did not make much impact on the charts. However – supporting act Shelley – formerly known as The Sabres, were well known in the south and had made many visits to The Happy Ballroom over the years. Our Friday Night fix of music would be well covered by Ready Steady Go on Redifusion TV from Kingway, and this week would have included – -The Band of Angels, The Four, Gerry and the Pacemakers – “It’s Gonna Be Alright” Wayne Fontana and the Mindbenders – “Um Um Um Um Um Um” , Little Eva , Little Walter. Interesting line up there with Mike d’Abo and the Band of Angels, who we booked several times for college dances, because of the family link with Hastings.
The Witch Doctor was buzzing with its 7 nights of entertainment, and on offer this week would have included: Saturday – The Shamrocks & The Profiles, Sunday – Soul Agents, Wednesday – Lee Castle & The Barons [scheduled to appear on Thank Your Lucky Stars the following night ] and to end the week on Friday The Beat Merchants.
Over the next few weeks, the Pier management will be reviewing the offer to the people of Hastings and we will see changes….but more about that later, it is still offering “ Longest Bar in Town “ and that bracing walk to and from the Happy Ballroom. Andre Martin
Joe Knight…love the record ‘From The Underworld’ mum use to tell me to turn it off she said it sounded like some one had died!!! lol ;-
Mick O’Dowd… Great band & they spawned Peter Frampton.
Josie Lawson… Yes I remember well. My dad used to go there. My friends dad worked there and due to funds needed I had to sell my camera to them I didn’t want too.
Martin Richter… I think i’ve got one of them!
Chris Meachen… Used to spend half my lunch breaks in there, chatting to Bruce & trying out new bits of kit…
Angela Frances Gardner… I had a box brownie with 8 frames to each film and only black and white pictures! I loved my camera it was £2 with a case and two films, my best birthday present I was 14. I still have the pictures and some of the negatives this was in 1968!
Nicola Dobson… I had a box brownie too loved it
Roger Simmonds… Took good photos still have many !
Andy Davies… I’m pretty sure Gifford Boyd was my godfather, my Dad used to sail a Merlin Rocket dinghy with him, and I had a Kodak Brownie, which I don’t think was actually very good!
Roger Plested… I worked there in the darkroom in 1954
David & Amanda Kent… I remember Bruce. I think I knew his brother also but can’t remember the family name.
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Andre Martin… The nights are closing in, and the Happy Ballroom on Hastings Pier is in for a great surprise this weekend, Saturday 12th September 1964. Top of the bill tonight is north London vocalist – Tammy St John and her backing group The Trends. Plus support from Gene Bennett & The Initials.
Tammy St John was born Judith Coster and hailed from Hornchurch in Essex, east of London. She earned a recording contract with Pye Records at the age of just 14 and released four singles over a two-year period. Each showed a very different side of the young singer as her record company tried to find a winning sound.
Her first 45, Boys, was a decent debut, and featured Hey-hey-hey-hey, a cover of a song originally recorded by Little Richard, on the flip. Issued in August 1964, it was a raucous affair, with a distinctly American flavour, loud guitars and strong backing vocals. It also gained a release in the US, on the small Four Corner of the World label.
Although she had little record success in the UK charts at the time, in later years, she would build up a big following on the Northern Circuit and several of these 1960s releases being worth £100s on the vinyl market.
Gene Bennett & The Initials are another of the many groups that acted in support on the Pier, of whom no knowledge is available; all the usual research has come up with little that can link them with Hastings Pier.
Along the Promenade – The Witch Doctor, is consolidating his position, and is offerings a really good weeks entertainment . Saturday Night – From London Steve Marriott’s Moments, supported by Brighton’s own The Alexenders, Sunday was the R&B night with Victor Brox Blues Train. Wednesday London’s own Christians Crusaders featuring Neil Christian and Friday Parlophone recording group The Contrasts.
The Weekend would have started off for us with the Friday Nights RSG and this week would have featured – Scheduled guests: Bill Haley and his Comets -Cliff Bennett and the Rebel Rousers – “One Way Love” -Adam Faith and the Roulettes -Tony Jackson and the Vibrations – “Bye Bye Baby” -Rita Bartok -Doug Sheldon.
So there you have another week of History of not just the Happy Ballroom, but other attractions in the town for the young at heart, I hope this has brought back some memories for you all………….
A BIG thank you to everyone who turned up today at the SMART meeting. Great turn out and sorry if I didn’t get chance to chat to everyone. This was our first meeting since February 2020 and it was wonderful catching up with old friends and lots of new ones. Among the newbies this time were Nan (Anthony Morland), Dave Trodd, Rose Watling, Rob and Maura Williams, Claire Longsdale, Dave Muriel, Melvin Grant, Lance Collins and Kenny Comfort. Nan had with him some great photos of The Temperance Seven taken at the Bathing Pool in 1961, Screaming Lord Sutch, Cliff Bennett, Gerry & The Pacemakers from Hastings Pier, ABC and Regal Cinema and shop front photos of The Orion Cinema/WH Smith, Gifford Boyd, Malcolm Mitchell, Ken Apps and more. Claire was chatting about her very interesting version of Mike Oldfield’s Tubular Bells, as well as her music career. Kenny was talking about his happy memories of The Saddle Tramps, The Humperdinks and working with John Winch. Dave Muriel had photos of when he was the poster boy playing the guitar, in the Kenneth More film ‘Some People’, which he got paid £5! Also talking about his days in a skiffle band and the time Peter Frampton played upstairs in the Pam Dor with the group ‘The Preachers’. Lance was pleased to say that he is back doing disco’s again with a huge demand for his Retro roadshow, where the audience love dancing to the 70’s and 80’s music he plays. Dave Trodd was pleased to hear everyone loves his photos of Alan at The Disc Jockey, The Teenbeats and the biker photos and he’s working his way through some old negatives, so expect more goodies soon. Too many other people to mention but this is just a small bit of what I remember. If you have anything else you want to add from interesting conversations then please do so.
Colin Bell… Great to see old friends and new faces, well done Alan.
Jon McCallion… So sorry Alan Julie and I could not make it. It is our grand daughter‘s third birthday but will see you next month
Stephen Moran… It was great Alan thank you.
Monica Bane… Well done from me as well Alan. Would have liked to have chatted more, was a good turnout. Fantastic Alan.
Lucy Pappas… I must put it in my diary and get to the next one!
Wendy Weaver… It was a lovely afternoon Alan. Nice to see so many familiar faces again and chatting to new friends. Looking forward to the next one.
Pete Prescott… It was great to see everyone wasn’t it!
Lance Collins… It was my first visit. But not my last. Thank you for making me welcome and meeting new friends with the same interests. And a few old mates as well
Mick O’Dowd… Alan the old magic is still there even after the enforced break. (How was it in prison?) only joking. Such a mix of people. I had trouble distinguishing between old & newbies. Great afternoon! Well done! Bring on the next! A big thank you to you for organising it.
Geoff Peckham… I was spending a pleasant day meeting old friends and new at the exhumed – I mean resumed (!) – SMART meet in Hastings, It was a smashing afternoon in good company, with thanks to Alan.
Claire Lonsdale…I enjoyed my first visit and met some very interesting people. Look forward to the next meet. I wished I’d seen the photos of the Temperance Seven. My good friend John Watson was the banjo player in the Temperance Seven.
Lloyd Johnson… Claire, Re: Anthony’Nan’ Moreland’s photos of ‘The Temperance Seven’. The are of the first gig we went to on Hastings Pier in 61/62. ‘Nan’ always had a camera with him and has an incredible archive of photos of past times 50s/60s +….he should really have an Exhibition at Hastings Museum!…
Alan Esdaile… Good to see you Claire. The images are now on the pages here.
Mick O’Dowd… All this Temperance Seven stuff is making me skiddy-iddy-iddy! I’ll just have to drop in my oolong and straighten the day!
Paul Huggett… An enjoyable get together, and a fun chat with Barry French & Lance Collins about the Band v Disco days of the 70s
Ian Mcgilvray… Great pic of Tich
Mark Reed… Holyfuckingshitballs! Tich!… those were some incredible times!
Martyn Baker… And Tich is smiling in this photo. That has to be a first!
Iain Cobby… Where were you Nick Webb!
Nick Webb… Iain, So sorry completely forgot will be at next one.
Photo by Anthony Morland. Supplied by Pete Millington.
Colin Fox… Saw them in a club in Sunderland when we were touring the north east in early 1970’s. Unfortunately not many people in the club, but they were brilliant and very funny.
Iain Cobby… Does that mean that the great Peter Grant who was their road manager later to be Led Zeppelin’s guru walked the boards of the Pier?
Mike O’Dowd… Skiddy-iddy-iddy……… For the uninformed who think i’ve finally lost it. the lyrics from the b-side of Pasadena single entitled Sugar.
Pauline Richards… Temperance 7 that’s a blast from the past!!
Very pleased to say We’re Back! Hope you are all doing OK and keeping well. Our last meeting was back in February 2020 and looking forward to catching up with old friends and new on Friday 3rd Sept at The White Rock Hotel. A big thank you to everyone for keeping the website and facebook page going during these difficult times. Best Regards Alan
Keeping the memories alive…
Pete Houghton… Great to back
Andy Qunta… Excellent news!
Mick O’Dowd… It was the 3rd of September. A date i’ll always remember…….
Pete Prescott… Looking forward to it!
Wendy Weaver… At last. Normality
Colin Norton… I hope that you guys have a great time and I really wish that I could join you!
Andy Qunta… Colin, what you said! Me too!
Kev Towner… Can you do it on Zoom? LOL
Stephen Moran… Thanks Alan I look forward to seeing you this afternoon.
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John Storer…..I cannot understand why I never went to see the wonderful Dusty Springfield at the Pier Ballroom …. oh, that’s right …. I was only 7 at the time! For me, THE greatest female singer of all time!
Alan Esdaile…..Agree, the GREAT Dusty but what is she wearing here….
Stuart Moir….A lamp shade .
Barry M Dyke…..I saw them the same year at Weymouth. The under card included an almost unknown comedy duo, Morecombe and Wise.
Peter Millington… Saw them on the Pier – I was in the front row – Lovely legs! She didn’t wear that dress on the Pier. I was in the front row at ankle level. That dress would have sent me home a happy teenager . I seem to remember the short programme! Wasn’t very impressed, they seemed to be out of their depth with a list of numbers more suited to appearances on the TV.
Sarah Harvey….That is one hell of a dress! 🙂
Mark Gilham…. Mike Hurst on the left
Terry Pack…..On her left is Mike Hurst. I did a lot of sessions and gigs with him in various guises.
Andre Martin….Sarah – every time I see this publicity photo I just crease-up, its just such a strange shape !!
Carol Ann Bolton……Those were the days when women wore frocks that could stand up on their own when you took them off.
Andre Martin…..Interesting statistics -1638 patrons for Joe Brown and the Bruvvers – true or the Pier method of counting ??
Pete Prescott….I did some sessions for Mike Hurst. He told some amazing stories about her, not sure if its on You Tube but find the live version she did with Burt Bacherach singing House is not a home its wonderful ! she was so good. He also signed a couple of songs Chris Cozens and I wrote to southern music.
Mick O’Dowd… In answer to your question Andre, she is wearing the latest fab creation by Millets.
Andre Martin… Your quite right Mick it was Pebble Camo just right for the beach !!
Allan Osborne… I was there that night and still have the entry ticket signed by all three. Its not for sale to anybody either. To me its priceless! as is the memory of the performance . I should live so long already!
Andy Qunta… She would be invisible in the company of 101 dalmatians, and that can be useful sometimes! Did a keyboard session with Mike Hurst years later when he was with Sundance, with Mary Hopkin and Mike d’Alberquerque. We were doing a song called “What’s Love”. Ray Fenwick, Steve Demetri and Steve Price played on it too.
Karl Holden… I was bass player for The Midniters that night and me and our drummer got asked to support The Springfields for their act. Well pleased to accept of course but didn’t get paid any extra!
Andre Martin… Ah – the management were in charge – heh heh!!!!
Pete Fisher… wonderful photo…Dusty in her Springfields days, and in her Springfields dress…she did the right thing in 1963, the year this was taken, and left the band (and hopefully the dress) to go solo…the rest is history…
Pauline Lindsay… I also saw them that night & if I remember she had a skirt on with braces type straps and of course that thick black eye make up.
Lloyd Johnson… was at this gig and there we not a lot of people in the audience maybe 30-40 max, it’s was almost empty wasn’t it!….I think she left The Springfield’s shortly after…..she was a wasted talent in that trio…..
Dave Boutwood… So was I!
Andre Martin… You have some good selections as ever. well that will mean a Dusty spot on Thursdays show on Conquest Hospital Radio without a doubt
Lloyd Johnson… You have to play ‘Can -Can 62’ Peter Jay and The Jaywalkers Andre… I can remember everyone going mad dancing to that on the Pier in the early 60s!…
Pete Prescott… I did a couple of sessions for Mike Hurst with Chris Cozens. He told some brilliant stories. He and Ray were funny at Chris’s wedding. Over to you Chris…